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Apr 17 2011 03:04pm
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No what I'm saying is that to be a captain you have to be a great overall player in every part of the game.

If you are the best player on your team, you have to set an example. I want jay to answer this question.

Do you think the Wings would have been better if Yzerman kept putting up 100+ point seasons instead of focusing on defense?


I think AGE is the reason Yzerman stopped putting up 100 point seasons. Lots of older guys in the twilight of their careers shift the focus of their games when they've lost a step. (Or, in Yzermans case, a leg). Being the great player and leader he was he still knew what he could add for team success.

You'll never see me diss Yzerman, one of the classiest guys to ever don an NHL jersey in my time as a fan.
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Apr 17 2011 03:06pm
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Panthers doesn't have a captain anymore since mccabe got traded. got three solid As that are vets that help the young ones out there

idk, i dont think some1 who doesnt play everything sets a good example

e/ i hope reasoner/weiss get it next year lol


Only the players in the lockerroom could possibly know who is and who isnt a good selection for Captaincy. None of us know squat about the subject and can only express uninformed opinions about it.
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Apr 17 2011 03:07pm
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I think AGE is the reason Yzerman stopped putting up 100 point seasons. Lots of older guys in the twilight of their careers shift the focus of their games when they've lost a step. (Or, in Yzermans case, a leg). Being the great player and leader he was he still knew what he could add for team success.

You'll never see me diss Yzerman, one of the classiest guys to ever don an NHL jersey in my time as a fan.


This is so wrong. It was Scotty Bowman.

It's not a coincidence that Yzerman stopped putting up 100 point seasons and the Wings started winning cups.

Yzerman had the offensive potential to just be under Gretzky as during the 1988–89 season Yzerman recorded 155 points (65 goals/90 assists), a total that only Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux have surpassed.

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When Scotty Bowman took over as coach in 1993, Yzerman initially chafed under Bowman's stern coaching style. Bowman, for his part, felt that Yzerman was not concentrating enough on defense; Bowman had long expected his forwards to be good back-checkers as well. Relations between the two became so strained that at one point, the Red Wings seriously considered trading him to the Montreal Canadiens in 1994 for Mathieu Schneider and a 1st Round Draft pick at the behest of Jacques Demers who at the time was the coach of the Canadiens and had previously coached Yzerman in Detroit. However, Yzerman gradually became a better defender, and is now considered one of the best two-way forwards in the history of the game.[12]
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Apr 17 2011 03:09pm
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Only the players in the lockerroom could possibly know who is and who isnt a good selection for Captaincy. None of us know squat about the subject and can only express uninformed opinions about it.


jealousy. even if it isn't spoken off there are ALWAYs people who think the ones doesnt deserve it, over time it turns out to be worse
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Apr 17 2011 03:10pm
What Does It Take To Win A Cup?
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Apr 17 2011 03:12pm
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This is so wrong. It was Scotty Bowman.

It's not a coincidence that Yzerman stopped putting up 100 point seasons and the Wings started winning cups.

Yzerman had the offensive potential to just be under Gretzky as during the 1988–89 season Yzerman recorded 155 points (65 goals/90 assists), a total that only Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux have surpassed.


Yet his best season of +/- came on the heels of a 100 point season.

Whjere did you get that quote? Wikipedia?
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Apr 17 2011 03:12pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0%5FXpbo7AzA&

After missing nearly 30 regular-season games with a knee injury, Yzerman led the Red Wings to their 10th Stanley Cup with a team-high 23 points, playing on a knee that required reconstructive surgery in the offseason and knocked him out of the first 66 games of the 2003 season


You need your best players to be your best players all over the ice.

That's why I "LOL", at Canuck fans that think the twins are even decent playoff performers. And that's why real teams like Philly with Mike Richards, Anaheim with Getzlaf, Chicago with Toews and Pittsburgh with Crosby are always challenging for a cup.

Your best players have to set an example.


please just get 100% warn so we don't have to hear your stupid bs anymore.

BTW us nuck fans are saying that keslers gunna be #1
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Apr 17 2011 03:13pm
Best example: Mathieu Darche and Brian Gionta stepping up with the Habs
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Yet his best season of +/-  came on the heels of a 100 point season.

Whjere did you get that quote? Wikipedia?


So what the hell does +/- have to do with anything?

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please just get 100% warn so we don't have to hear your stupid bs anymore.

BTW us nuck fans are saying that keslers gunna be #1


Kesler is a lot better than the Sedin's that for sure. But he's still got to actually do something in the playoffs, he's struggled thus far in his career.

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Apr 17 2011 03:14pm
Quote (LordNibbler @ Apr 17 2011 05:07pm)
This is so wrong. It was Scotty Bowman.

It's not a coincidence that Yzerman stopped putting up 100 point seasons and the Wings started winning cups.

Yzerman had the offensive potential to just be under Gretzky as during the 1988–89 season Yzerman recorded 155 points (65 goals/90 assists), a total that only Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux have surpassed.


I remember when I told you that I couldn't wait for you to get 50% because you had an absurd signature and you told me it would never happen :lol:
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