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Sep 27 2020 03:36pm
Quote (Hizkuntza @ Sep 27 2020 10:58am)
so 1 year of Marc Staal at 5.7 cost the Rangers a 2nd

we're so fucked


Ya.... I saw that and that is what I was thinking.

Not a good precedent.


Yzerman looks good in the trade though.

He gets a second rounder and Staal only has a year left on his contract.

They have the cap space, have spots to fill and if he fits with the team they can sign him cheap next year.

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Tricky situation for Benning.

If we lose markstrom, it's not because of caphit but the term imo. I think most of us feel Demko will be our guy when the core is ready to compete in the next 2 to 3 years, with dead contracts off the books and replaced by cheaper and better bottom 6. So Benning probably wants markstrom for 4 year max, maybe even 3. Also risky to sign markstrom longer than that, cuz you never know with NHL goalies, they can be really good as expected or just shit or injured.

I think Benning can convince tanev to sign for only 2 yrs like he did with edler. Tanev seems like he prefers to stay in Vancouver. However it may be his last chance to lock up for term since he plays a risky game, being injured and all blocking shots and taking hits to make plays.

Toffoli needs to be signed imo, as he solifies our top 6. He and boeser can move up and down depending on the style they need. Even with toffoli, I think the Canucks are still missing 1 more player there, if Pearson isn't coming back after next season or at least someone better is available.

Then there's bunch of question makes with our rfa and defense. I think we should expect to regress next season if some aren't coming back, but be hopeful for the seasons after.

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Quote (Killingyouall @ 1 Oct 2020 18:57)
Do you have any advanced statistics on OEK?

Wondering how well he would fit in.

The contract is just scary though..... Hope it does not happen.

Arizona is broke so they probably would trade him cheap. Eriksson is a high cap hit but is not owed much actual money.

Oek is only 29. Perhaps if the cap rises you could buy him out with a couple years left on his deal and it might not end up hurting that bad.

Problen is if you bring in a guy making 8.25 million how much is someone much better like Hughes/Petey going to want...




I think he would fit perfectly with the Canucks system. He's a career 40-50pt dman with the yotes being a very defensive minded team. None of their guys scored more than 45pts, and scored 500pts as a team. Canucks scored 600+. The extra 100 would definitely help OEL's production, even if he's not playing 1d role.

He's sort of the dman the Canucks need, as the canucks can't only continue to rely on Hughes and make it easier for other teams to just focus to shut him down. With OEL, it bolsters the defense pretty nicely. hughes or OEL will have a much better time with "easier" competition when the other team decides to focus on

one of them with their best. OEL isn't a 1d like couple years ago, but at least we know that he is capable of it at his best, perhaps he can revive with a new offensive minded team. Although with Hughes on the team, I dont think we need OEL to be a 1D, rather a solid 2D. Dom model expects him to be a top 4 D for the

next 4 years before falling off in the last 3. His contract isn't buyout proof, so it's not as worrisome if he becomes reallllly bad and the Canucks need to buy him out later.

If the Canucks can dump Eriksson's contract, 5m owed in the next 2 years (dream for yotes owner) it would make this trade more worth it. Dumping a healthy scratch/solid defensive bottom 6 with 0 offensive upside player for someone that can tremendously help the backend for the next few years, while

helping out Hughes by getting less focused on by the other teams. I feel like it's either that, or yotes just straight up retain.

I dont think OEL making 8.25m from a signing prior to covid would affect Hughes/Petey's signing. I feel like these kids want to win, cuz they know they will make money later on anyway, so i think they will take a slight discount.

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You make some good points. Putting up 40-50 points with a defense first team playing on the back end is quite impressive.

In a perfect world he would be a right handed shot too.... Can't have it all though.

Top 4 for 3-4 years would be pretty solid if the acquisition price is right.

Usually teams will trade to the other conference. The Canucks would have to make a slightly better offer than the Eastern teams most likely.

I agree that Hughes has been targeted. When you are the only d-man that is a consistent threat offensively that is going to happen. Having someone out there would certainly take the heat of a bit.


I hope you are right with the young guys taking hometown discounts. Making more money later is not a guarantee. a couple concussions or a severe knee injury could shorten your career at the drop of a hat so you may see players

going for a home run on their first big contract. Really hoping that is not how they think.

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benning should show this to tanev,
https://oilersnation.com/2020/09/29/2020-nhl-ufa-top-30-chris-tanev-and-brenden-dillon/

overpay him and sign for 1.8m!
problem solved
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benning should show this to tanev,
https://oilersnation.com/2020/09/29/2020-nhl-ufa-top-30-chris-tanev-and-brenden-dillon/

overpay him and sign for 1.8m!
problem solved


Dillon has made it clear he wants to play in Vancouver.

Hell I think he would sign for 1.5 and be happy to show the team what he can do so he is signed long term down the road.

Tanev can either take a huge paycut or walk.

On a team with a better defense he is a bottom pair guy. He should be paid as one.

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Oct 4 2020 12:41am
this guy religiously transcribes radio talk


Taj @taj1944 8h

Many insiders have said Canucks want to replicate Stars Dcore after they saw how successful it was against Vegas.

They would have Hughes, OEL and Edler all on a different pairings for one season.



I don't like how oddly specific this rumor is. This could be Benning's master shitpiece.
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Oct 7 2020 04:25pm
so Stetcher was not qualified

what in the flying fuck is Benning doing
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so Stetcher was not qualified

what in the flying fuck is Benning doing


I think it's to avoid arbitration, they can still sign him. Probably knows he really wants to stay a nuck, but it wouldn't make sense to pay him almost 3m or more for 3rd pairing duties

The 3rd round pick looks like the product of Petey and boeser if they had kids

https://imgur.com/a/MtLQRDm

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Quote (Secksii @ Oct 7 2020 08:00pm)
I think it's to avoid arbitration, they can still sign him. Probably knows he really wants to stay a nuck, but it wouldn't make sense to pay him almost 3m or more for 3rd pairing duties

The 3rd round pick looks like the product of Petey and boeser if they had kids

https://imgur.com/a/MtLQRDm


Stecher has all the leverage now that he can just walk into UFA. Arbitration meant he wouldn't be able to do that. If Benning really wanted to lock him up he would've gotten it done before losing arbitration. It would've been "this is my offer, if you don't like it the arbitrator will decide" but now it's "this is my offer, and I guess you can go get paid elsewhere if you don't like it". Stecher can easily get 3+ in the open market with term and the least he could get from arbitration was 2.35, so even if the intention was to eventually let go of him it would infinitely make more sense to sign/let arbitrator award and then look for a trade while the Canucks were still entitled to his services. Now he doesn't have to sign with us and Benning will probably have to make a better offer because competent RHD (even if unspectacular) don't grow in trees.

And even if Stecher wants to stay in Vancouver, all it takes for him to change his mind is a needy team overpaying. Again, he's not exactly a goon winger desperate for a home - he's an asset to just about any team in the league.

/e Joel Edmunson was awarded under 3 and DeMelo signed for 3, so if you hear local media speculating Stecher would be awarded more it's complete PR damage control bullshit.

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