Well then it would be year 9-10 to make the playoffs instead of now and he should have been fired a while ago.

Either way, poor management.

Trade for bae was good at the time, i remember a lot of the fans, including the media and around the league liked the trade. Bae was a good top 6 player during the dark times, it's too bad he suffered a cheapshot to the head and cut his time shorter than expected.

What flames drafted with the 2nd pick is irrelevant imo, since it's hindsight. Canucks could've easily drafted a bust, or someone better than Andersson, no one will know. Just like the 2nd pick bust the kings drafted for Vey, at least Vey was Willie's favourite boy and briefly played in the NHL before his dad killed his mom & went to play for KHL. It was a decent gamble, since Vey was an AHL star, it just didn't translate into NHL.

McCann wasn't a great fit with the canucks locker-room/atmosphere. He was a cocky kid, thinking he was all that when he barely even made a dent with the weak Canucks roster at the time. He also struggled hard in florida. He finally got his shit together joining crosby/malkin's team, i guess u cant be a cocky shit when playing with the best even then, his ppg is lower than bae in a better team, playing against weaker competition on 3rd line and benefiting from pp time. Also a lot of fans and media wanted the Canucks to get a dman, since they had ahl tier D, gudbranson sadly didn't do shit nor was he "tough" enough. At least benning turned it around with Pearson.

Bonino was definitely a bad trade, i understand his knee was fucked and he was slow as a slug. Sutter was the "better" all around player and household name, but Benning knee jerked the shit out of himself and signed him to a long contract without even seeing how he does with his new team. Fucking foundational my ass lmao.

most of the FA signings turned out to be a loss,
Ferland was a risky signing but a decent contract for top 6 player if it worked out, it didn't.
Eriksson fell off the cliff as soon as he signed with the Canucks
Myers is overpaid, but at least Green is using him a lot so he's worth it for now. The question is, will he become a huge liability towards the end of his contract? I hope the Canucks defense gets much better by then.
Roussel was great until he fucked his knee
MDZ, Gagner, Schaller, Benn list goes on..
I think if he avoided FA, he would look A LOT fucking better as a GM.

Also there's rumor that 4.8mil x 4 yrs will get it done to sign Toffoli. If true, that's hugee. With Tanev also talking like he is willing to take discount and even short term to stick around in vancouver, this hopefully makes Markstrom consider to sign without the NMC, and see what happens.

The strata hate is real.

I enjoyed reading all those posts.

It must suck paying a mtg and then a strata... I’ve never been in one but is property tax on top of that or included in strata? I bought a house with my parents and I own the basement suite portion. 800/month 1100 if you factor in utilities/shaw/prop tax etc.

granted one 2nd is probably not an NHL player, but when you give them away over and over for players who don't even come close to panning out you're nto the territory where choosing the top skater left from Scouting Central is a better gamble. and when discussing 2nd rounders it's not just the odds of getting an NHL'er but potentially an impact player who is cost-controlled for many years (e.g. Weber, Subban, Kucherov, etc.) I do agree the Bae trade wasn't bad at the time, but pretty much all other shots with a 2nd were complete misses for low-ceiling players in a feeble attempt to skip rebuilding. there may have been pressure from up top to stay competitive while the Sedins were still around, but the moment we traded Kesler and Luongo that core was done, and the subsequent trades played a big part in our continued mediocrity.

/e the 2014-15 season probably fooled management into thinking we could still compete, but most of our performers were on the downswing and the team genuinely couldn't get any better (which is why Kes and Luongo were traded in the first place). instead of selling high Benning kept pushing and failed miserably. picking Petey/Hughes/Boeser specifically kinda salvaged the situation, but all the cumulative bad signings from trying to remain competitive are now due.

This post was edited by Hizkuntza on Sep 14 2020 07:41pm

Yup. Property tax, Utility fees (city of Port Coquitlam splits them in half unlike a lot of other districts), mortgage and strata fees.

You are never free even once the place is paid down.

The one good thing is when you are old you can defer property taxes for a low interest rate if you want to.

Still can't imagine how bad it is paying strata fees when you are retired with a lower income.

I am already crotchety over the strata rules now.... When I am old I would probably have a complete meltdown so I need to move somewhere cheap into the interior with a detached property when I am old.

I would say the free agent market is just about always a massive overpay that cripples a team down the road. You have exceptions, they are rare though.

In a league with such parity teams are desperate to get an edge. When a big fish hits the market teams are going to overextend because that opportunity rarely presents itself. Usually teams don't let an asset of that caliber slip away for nothing so you have to overpay.

Players and agents know that. There is always going to be a lower end team with cap space to drive the price up. The player can go to a mediocre team for a bit more money but you are going to have competitive teams push close to that kind of deal in an attempt to be better short term despite long term consequence.


In most circumstances I think it is going to be better to just stay out of the FA market. That is not generally where a team finds success.

Good management, scouting, coaching, player developmet etc etc is what wins. In a salary cap league you are just going to get buried if you try to buy a team. It has to be built from within.

Damn that’s rough. I am thankful I got my foot in the housing market in 2015. So had a nice down payment for this current one.

I dont think it's benning's fault for not rebuilding when they should've. The fluke season of them making playoffs probably made aquaman think they shouldn't rebuild so soon and keep trying, at least for the sedins. Only when aquaman finally realized the sedins were done soon, benning and linden got the greenlight, and they finally started to say the words "rebuild", and acted accordingly. He traded away burrows and hansen, which at the time a lot of people praised him for, except again, the gamble didn't pay off. Even promising players like goldie and dahlen didn't work out for the canucks, and they're much better than 2nd round picks too lol. If benning didn't trade away 2nd picks for bae or roster type players who he thought could fill, then the canucks would've followed the oilers model of rushing unready kids to fill, or just play for the sake of tanking numero uno 1 pick and creating "it's okay to lose" mentality. Even with fucking mcdavid/drais/rnh they're still a joke somehow, they definitely came a long way after removing players like Hall, responsible for creating that shitty envoirnment, where their vets couldn't get it through their heads because they were much worse than these kids with skillz. Canucks were a complete joke too, especially during willie's system, but they never had the mentality to think it's okay to lose, we'll do better next time. I think only Virtanen has that mentality within the team, going to bieber concerts and shit, while kids like horvat, stecher, gaudette, petey, boeser, hughes etc. are naturally pros and want to focus on constantly improving their weaknesses. They also give credit to the vets like sedins, beagle, sutter, tanev for guiding them etc. I think this playoffs showed us that the Canucks can always bounce back after a shitty game, despite being heavily outmatched and outplayed, they'll be scary once they're not the underdogs anymore.

If Benning can remove some of the bottom 6 players and their anchor contracts, and start using players like lind and podkolzin it would really help out the team. They'll probably make a lot of big mistakes initially, but eventually get better overtime and at least the Canucks won't have the slowest bottom 6 while being hte most expensive lolol
Podkolzin's corsi is fucking insane... he usually averages about 75% corsi, but his most recent game @ 85% lmao. He's a kid playing against men in the KHL, and he's taking full advantage of his limited minutes. Finally another player that can drive plays.
Hoglander also doing well, he's a swede so it only makes sense he becomes a superstar along with Petey and Markstrom.

This post was edited by Secksii on Sep 14 2020 09:38pm

Don't get too excited about Hoglander.

You mentioned Dahlen..

At one time there was hopes he would play with Petey.

I try to chill my expectations now lol.


Podkolzin on the other hand.... My expecations are probably too high for my own good.

I just love the tenacious style. He plays hockey with intent to piss off his opponents. You can't teach that kind of hostility.





This post was edited by Killingyouall on Sep 15 2020 10:26pm