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Aug 31 2020 02:15am
So next year is going to be super important while we have Hughes and Petey on ELCs. Here's what we gotta do:

- Drop Eriksson to minors or something and hope that he retires. If not, we gotta buy him out. Other alternative is to have Seattle pick him up and we give them a pick along with it. Only problem is that we dont have a 1st or 2nd rounder this draft so we're really fucking our future up by doing this.
- Ditto to above for Sutter.
- Trade Boeser. Guy had a crap playoffs and is on the decline. Trade him while he still may have some solid value. Let's try to get a quality top 4 Dman or another top 6 forward.
- Sign Toffoli
- Ferland's basically done. He needs to go on LTIR and hopefully never play for us again. Massive liability and terrible contract.
- Re-sign Virtanen, MacEwen and Gaudette. If Virtanen we sign and look to trade. Hopefully we get a 2nd rounder or something if Kapanen can get a 1st.
- Let go of Tanev. Would love to have him but there's no room and he's so injury prone. Sign Barrie instead. He's a FA
- Re-sign Stecher short term
- Re-sign Markstrom for big bucks. He is the team.
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Aug 31 2020 03:00am
Eriksson is buyout proof, so there is no point doing that. Sending him to minors might work to pressure him to retire, but he's still too useful as a defensive forward. Unless someone is ready to take on the bottom 6 role and outplay him defensively, I don't see a reason, unless we know for sure it will make him retire. Especially if tanev is being let go, the cap saves from eriksson won't do much to improve the team

I disagree with moving boeser, I don't think his value is high enough to get a quality dman that can eventually replace edler, and he's way better to keep than trading for another top 6 forward similar to his age or younger. Kid is still a 50-60pt player, even though he doesn't seem like he will ever have his deadly shot back in his rookie season. His 2way game improved tenfold. He had pretty decent performance for his 1st playoff hockey experience.
Pearson was pretty invisible, more so than boeser imo.

I agree signing Toffoli, his chemistry with pettersson is great, and brings a lot to the powerplay, more than boeser playing the same spot. He's great 2 way and also has a deadly shot. Still in his prime years.

Let's pray ferland recovers healthy for his life sake, but decides to retire playing professional hockey and use the ltir loophole to save the Canucks.

I think virtanen is worth more than a 2nd Rd, I definitely wouldn't trade him for a pick. Shame his hockey iq is dogshit with the speed, skill, shot he has though. 40pt player on the 3rd line is decent. Gotta hope gaudette improves his faceoffs and defense aspect of his game fast, so players like Sutter isn't needed or missed.

I don't think barrie is the answer when Hughes is there. I rather use that money on a dman like pangelo, instead of paying barrie and Hughes hefty $$ at the same time, especially with Rathbone there as well. The team suddenly lacks all around dman like edler or defensive dman like tanev.

I think stecher is gone if he's worth more than 2mil, it showed in playoffs that he puts 500% effort but his size limits him and he's 3rd pairing at best.

Seattle would pick demko, instead of eriksson + picks.

This post was edited by Secksii on Aug 31 2020 03:02am
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Aug 31 2020 02:54pm
We're not re-signing Toffoli. Even with Ferland going to LTIRetirement and Benning finding a taker for Bae that only gives us room to re-sign our incumbent UFAs at most. The only way to fit him would be to trade Boeser for futures or a rookie.

I don't think Virtanen has much trade value. While he scores like a 2nd/3rd liner he's so useless without the puck. At the end of the day he's a low IQ hockey player who struggles to process the game whenever it gets faster - all tools, no toolbox. The organization's obsession with him is pathological, stemming from a desire to recreate Cam Neely or Todd Bertuzzi. But hey, maybe we can dupe a dinosaur GM into giving us two 2nds or a late 1st for him.

2021/22 looks really dire because we'll need at least $15M in cap space to retain Hughes and Petey. Money that's tied up in... Eriksson, Sutter, Roussel. These three stooges alone are $13.5M, and no one will take them. This is where I fear Boeser will be traded for futures and Edler will be replaced by a low-ceiling rookie or an AHL'er ala Biega.
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Aug 31 2020 07:03pm
Boeser's shooting has never been the same since he suffered back/wrist injuries.

As other have said, other aspects have improved but that whip of a wrist is not something he possesses to the same degree.

I would not want to trade him. 6'1 210. good skater. Far higher IQ than Virtanen and he is showing a willingness to play with grit.

Maybe his deadly shot will make a comeback. Then you have a pretty strong player once again. He has shown good playmaking ability this playoff run so I don't see him as a one dimensional player anymore.

Trade return would be too low to move him imo. Its better to keep him.


We cant forget about that pesky Luongo recapture penalty as well... Just brutal.


With the financial uncertainty stemming from covid I think Eriksson may actually be movable because he is not owed much actual money, just cap space.

The thing is though it does not have to happen this year. The cap crunch comes into play the following year. You could keep him around for a bit longer and dump him later for less pain.


Sutter's contract will expire soon. He has been better than expected this playoffs in my eyes. However he is injury prone and aging. His contract will lapse and he will be gone soon. I don't think anything needs to be done with him.


I really want Toffoli back.... He fits in so well and has proven himself to be a clutch performer. Problem is I don't think we can afford it and I would rather try to beef up the defense. We are getting exposed for lack of depth this playoff run.

You have aging defenders who need to be replaced. I think the Canucks need to position themselves to aquire a top 4 shut down d-man who brings physicality. The defense is too small overall and is being pushed around despite a high compete level.


I hope Ferland retires for the sake of his long term health.... Concussions are no joke. We will get LTIR relief as well.

Hopefully we can bring up some ahlers as regulars to save some cap space. So long as they can play physical and shut it down thats good enough.


I enjoyed reading all your comments.

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Aug 31 2020 10:47pm
Quote (Hizkuntza @ 31 Aug 2020 13:54)
We're not re-signing Toffoli. Even with Ferland going to LTIRetirement and Benning finding a taker for Bae that only gives us room to re-sign our incumbent UFAs at most. The only way to fit him would be to trade Boeser for futures or a rookie.

I don't think Virtanen has much trade value. While he scores like a 2nd/3rd liner he's so useless without the puck. At the end of the day he's a low IQ hockey player who struggles to process the game whenever it gets faster - all tools, no toolbox. The organization's obsession with him is pathological, stemming from a desire to recreate Cam Neely or Todd Bertuzzi. But hey, maybe we can dupe a dinosaur GM into giving us two 2nds or a late 1st for him.

2021/22 looks really dire because we'll need at least $15M in cap space to retain Hughes and Petey. Money that's tied up in... Eriksson, Sutter, Roussel. These three stooges alone are $13.5M, and no one will take them. This is where I fear Boeser will be traded for futures and Edler will be replaced by a low-ceiling rookie or an AHL'er ala Biega.


they can sign him if they decide not to bring Tanev back, or if Markstrom decides he wants money instead of staying with the canucks (i think he prefers to stay here than make more $$ elsewhere). I think both are still needed, and best way would be just trading Sutter.

I dont think they'll bring back Stecher either, unless he signs for real cheap like a 3rd pair rate. I suspect they're gonna give time for Juolevi or Rafferty.

Also you mean 2022/23 for petey/hughes. They're RFA and their new contract kicks in that year. 2021/22 is their last years of ELC.
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Aug 31 2020 10:51pm
If you guys can't afford Toffoli, he'd fit in perfectly on kadris line. I think sakic tried for him at the deadline.
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they can sign him if they decide not to bring Tanev back, or if Markstrom decides he wants money instead of staying with the canucks (i think he prefers to stay here than make more $$ elsewhere). I think both are still needed, and best way would be just trading Sutter.

I dont think they'll bring back Stecher either, unless he signs for real cheap like a 3rd pair rate. I suspect they're gonna give time for Juolevi or Rafferty.

Also you mean 2022/23 for petey/hughes. They're RFA and their new contract kicks in that year. 2021/22 is their last years of ELC.


yeah I meant the season after the next, you're right.

Sutter's contract has negative value at this point, even though it's just one more year a lot of teams are cap crunched right now. There won't be many willing takers and I don't trust Benning to offload it. Even getting rid of Bae's alone would be an accomplishment.
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Sep 1 2020 01:39am
Here's a sad Canuck fact

The Vancouver Canucks have come back from 3-1 deficit three times, more than any other team in the NHL, and it happened 25 times. Which makes it more rare than winning the cup.

Now that's such a canuck thing to do lmfao
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Sep 1 2020 03:14pm
Demko in tonight. Gg
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Sep 1 2020 04:06pm
Nice, looks like Vegas is finished. Who will the Canucks play next? Dallas or colorado?
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