When you're even a HALFWAY decent looking male vet student, it's really not that hard. I'm one of 3 guys in my 80 person lectures.

It's short term. What are you going to do when you get older? Ever been to a strip club where there's more than a few older strippers? And when I mean older I mean later 20s/early 30s. And most strippers didn't decide to do that because they thought it would be a good living I don't think. I talked with my old friend quite a bit and she definitely didn't do it because she wanted to make a good living.

Really does depend on the person. Maybe person x doesn't care what others view of her and her profession. Kind of shitty that she has kids, but those kids are going to get a better childhood than the kid living off food stamps.

Most people that age are doing something short term. Being a stripper doesn't automatically equal a failed life lol.

You have to not look at it in solely monetary reasons. And I'm not saying it's a failed life, I just don't think it's a good life. Would you want your daughter or sister to become a stripper?

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The kids are pretty young, 16 months (Same age as mine, they're 10 days apart) and 3 years, but I don't necessarily think they will get a better childhood.

Ignoring that the daughter question is bullshit and loaded, the fact of the matter is stripping in and of itself is fine. It isn't a high profile executive position but society downplays it way too much. There's demand for a reason.

It's not loaded. It's a simple question, yes or no. For most people, the answer is no.

You're still looking at it from a solely financially point of view and not the context behind it. Why do people become one? What are the social factors behind it? I have no problem with the job or people using its services. That's not my issue. My issue is how to people get to that point. If someone genuinely wants to do that, that's fine with me. I would bet that most strippers don't truly want to do it.

This post was edited by Caedus on Oct 20 2013 10:09am

It's bullshit and loaded, and is not objective because parents have unrealistic views about what their children are capable of. For me the answer is my daughter will be educated well enough that if that's the choice she makes there's damn good reason for it. But you will never in a million years convince me that asking someone what they want for their children will yield anything realistic.
There are a thousand reasons why someone would choose that life. First and foremost, because they like doing it. Secondly good money. Thirdly, sex sells and IS FUN. Jesus, I'd think the guy who argues for polygamy wouldn't be so ignorant about the sex industry.

Yes there are strippers who are forced into it by drugs or whatever. But you're acting like it's inherently bad.

This post was edited by dxlightning on Oct 20 2013 10:15am

You're completely not reading my posts. You just glossed over it and posted the exact same thing you did before. You can't understand that someone would fall into a life for reasons other than 1) Money 2) Self-interest. There is a multitude of more reasons why someone would chose a job, and you're ignoring them by pretending like there's only two reasons.

Secondly, I said I don't care about the job itself. I have no problem with the industry at all. My issue is how do people decide to do it, and you're flat out wrong that people are doing it simply because they like it. Stripping as a career is comparable to prostitution for a career. Sure there are people who like to do it, and most strippers probably enjoy what they're doing, but that's more of a side effect and self-rationalization, not a rationale to get involved. Jobs like that fall onto you, you don't fall onto them. So stop arguing that there's nothing wrong with the industry itself, because that's not what I'm talking about at all. I'm arguing that the people involved are not doing it because they pursued the job, but because other factors pushed them into it.

This post was edited by Caedus on Oct 20 2013 10:22am

What's wrong with prostitution? Drugs are fun too.
All I'm saying is there ARE reasons. And shit happens. From the outside looking in, it seems sad but honestly we have no business commenting on it.

This post was edited by dxlightning on Oct 20 2013 10:26am