I mean i think Hughes is the only one that can compete for it, i dont think other rookies have a chance against Makar or Hughes.
Hell, even Adam Fox was fricken amazing in his debut season, he's just overshadowed by these monsters.

2018 Draft so far

Svenchinkov 150 GP 98pts
Tkachuk 142 GP 89 pts
Dahlin 141 GP 84pts
Hughes 73 GP 56 pts

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This post was edited by Secksii on Jun 4 2020 03:40am

I mean... The avs didn't have a regular PP all year long due to injuries, and many different players from the year before, that being said we can all throw around numbers.

Makar still leads all first year defensemen in goals (12), even strength goals (8), even strength points (31) and even strength primary points (26). Bolded proves who deserves the Calder

Canucks would be bottom feeders if not for Hughes revitalizing their pp. in terms of who was more valuable to their team I’d argue Hughes. If not for him Canucks are bottom 5 team ez. I’ll gladly do a fun wager for Calder

Calder isn't about mvp to their team tho... “to the player selected as the most proficient in his first year of competition in the National Hockey League.” , I'm not saying he's running away with it btw .. could really go to either of them.

This post was edited by Chadzle on Jun 4 2020 02:08pm

It’s up to the individual voter. Here is an espn ones comments.

You take either player away from his team and those clubs are worse for it, but take Hughes away from the Canucks and it could be devastating. He averaged the second-most ice time on the team, was huge on the power play with 25 man-advantage points, posted a Corsi For relative 6.4% at 5-on-5, provided an relative expected goals percentage of 7.3% and a relative goals-for percentage of 4.4%.
Hughes was a high-end prospect, but I would argue that the way he played in his first full NHL season is at a level even higher than he showed in two years at the University of Michigan, where he spent his draft and draft-plus-one seasons. He thrives alongside elite players and has been allowed to play his game without fear. He takes risks, but he also makes high-level decisions, and his elite skating makes him unpredictable and dangerous in all zones. As a result, he became one of the more entertaining defensemen to watch this season, and he'll get my vote for the Calder Trophy.

Agreed, Calder is about being the best rookie of the year, not MVP but i guess it depends how you interpret that though.
If Makar stayed healthy, he would probably win it assuming he kept pace and didn't slow down. Interesting how makar started out the season strong, and then played less strong towards the end of season while hughes was the opposite. Then again, Green didn't allow hughes to take over as a rookie, and let Edler still be the guy at start of season, but good thing Green aint stubborn like willie and goes with results. It's such a shame the season got cut short cuz of COVID, just when he was fired up and red hot, it just gets cut off.

https://imgur.com/a/BJLStl7

i feel if they swapped teams, Makar would still have more goals than Hughes, but i think the canucks powerplay will still be worse, and based on analytics above the impact he would have with lesser players in the canucks would also impact Makar a bit slightly. Whereas Hughes would be feasting on the depth the avs have compared to lolnucks.
look at the last picture, how much impact hughes brings to the game, everyone literally goes to the "bad" side without hughes rofl, while avs players can hold their own and still be good without makar.

im just happy we get to witness both these kids play, they'll probably be competing for norris at some point in their careers lol

This post was edited by Secksii on Jun 4 2020 03:01pm

i mean, finally some respect to Fox... but he's on crack if he thinks he is #1 for calder lol
he doesn't even have makar in the top 3 rofl!!

https://jfresh.substack.com/p/picking-the-2019-20-calder-trophy

Fox isn't 1D, he has Trouba and DeAngelo soaking up the harder minutes lol....

Meanwhile, Makar and Hughes are 1D as a rookie and straight up making a difference.

The only minutes Trouba and DeAngelo soak for him are his power play time. Fox and Lindgren were the top pair at even strength by the end of the season.

Both fair comments.

I think it is really close.

Even if you are selecting the most "proficient player" I think you still go with the player who provided a bigger spark to his team in the event the two players in question are pretty well neck and neck otherwise.

That is why I would vote for Hughes if I was in that position, even if it may not be in the criteria directly I feel it serves as a tie breaker.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Jun 9 2020 09:06pm

Fuck Adam Fox, and every draft pick who refuses to play for any NHL team but their 1# choice