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Aug 19 2015 12:05pm


Holy balls, that's a big project. I'm assuming all of those mockups of new appartment buildings downtown was to make Nenshi salivate after his dream of increasing population density.
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Aug 19 2015 12:09pm
Quote (GSG @ Aug 19 2015 12:04pm)
No idea where that 3 billion number came from :LOL:


If you think it's just 900 mill....your a fool.
sites reported that will be 1 bill to change Crowchild and bow trail roads and infrastructure. 1 bill for site cleanup cause it's a dirty ground they building on or some shit. Then, about a bill for the arenas.

This 900 mill you hear of is to make Calgarians feel better about the price tag.

Just wait till the talks get serious ramped up and you'll see some true numbers come out
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Aug 19 2015 02:33pm
I skimmed an article and it mentioned the cost being upward to 3 bil once it's said and done
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Aug 19 2015 02:49pm
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I skimmed an article and it mentioned the cost being upward to 3 bil once it's said and done


Well, yeah that's also including clean up, land clearing etc etc. Lots of times when buildings are announced you don't hear much about the extra costs. The building itself is around 900M.
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Well, yeah that's also including clean up, land clearing etc etc. Lots of times when buildings are announced you don't hear much about the extra costs. The building itself is around 900M.


Right, but that's where you get "project cost"

If they came right out and said "it's going to cost 3bill~ for new arenas" you'd never ever ever ever get public support.

So let's go with a conservative number of 900 mill. Which is nice cause it doesn't ring like "1 billion" does.

Like. I doubt flames and organization gonna find 3 bill laying around. What ya need is the main oil company headquarters down there to pitch a significant amount. And reap the benefits of the revenues, and have them name it what they want.

Suncor place doesn't sound too bad hahah
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Right, but that's where you get "project cost"

If they came right out and said "it's going to cost 3bill~ for new arenas" you'd never ever ever ever get public support.

So let's go with a conservative number of 900 mill. Which is nice cause it doesn't ring like "1 billion" does.

Like. I doubt flames and organization gonna find 3 bill laying around. What ya need is the main oil company headquarters down there to pitch a significant amount. And reap the benefits of the revenues, and have them name it what they want.

Suncor place doesn't sound too bad hahah


You're like a pro oilfield drago. Somehow everything you mention involves oilfields. And oilers. The flames organization has plenty of time to negotiate. The government will end up chipping in a lot.
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You're like a pro oilfield drago. Somehow everything you mention involves oilfields. And oilers. The flames organization has plenty of time to negotiate. The government will end up chipping in a lot.


No. Government is chipping in with the community revitalization levy. 200 mill
Just like edmonton got. Good luck thinking your gonna squeeze money out of the ndp.
And we'll duh. This is alberta dude. And if you didn't know, cause you live on the coast. Calgary has all the main oilfield companies there. Only makes sense. Use that brain Toshster.


Like edmonton just went through this. And i watched and followed the process which unfolded. Lol.
No need to get sour over me for lending an opinion and tapering expectations. Cause well..screw Calgary :-p this isn't playoffs anymore!

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Aug 20 2015 11:08am
Guessing at total number being 1.5B, those are numbers from local Councillors who aren't fans of the funding model, so it seems like a fair guesstimate.

As far as the cost of cleaning up the contamination, maybe 200m in the number above, that doesn't really factor for me because its government land, and the public would be footing that bill anyway, whoever it is sold to. Updating some of Crowchild and Bow Trail also doesn't overly bother me, because that's been on the city's to do list for a while.

So maybe 1B then for the project. The Flames want to give 200m. That's bullshit, it's their lowball first draft and it's not going to fly. Flames owners Edwards, etc, are billionaires and some of the richest people in Canada, and the team itself is worth around $460m. I'm curious what the compromise will be, and I don't think it will come soon, because Nenshi is a hardass and is very against any public funding at all for the project. Ken King says the Flames have no plan B, they're all in, so this might take a long while. The Oilers robbed their city blind, the Flames, I guess, are at least going to try.
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Aug 20 2015 04:12pm
Yea so maybe Flames cough up more cash and what do they get in return?

You know they'll put in more money as long as they get rights to something
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Quote (Bruin @ Aug 20 2015 02:12pm)
Yea so maybe Flames cough up more cash and what do they get in return?

You know they'll put in more money as long as they get rights to something



Two stadiums for their 4 teams and a risk free guaranteed profit venture. I want this thing, and looks like it'll happen, but the funding proposal was pretty shameless imo.

Back to hockey talk, Hartley says Bennett will start at centre and he wants to keep him there all year. 3rd line after Monahan and Backlund? No clue who his wingers will be. Plz never Bollig ever again.

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