Quote (Price31 @ 7 Nov 2016 15:15)
If you're gonna blast the habs, at least choose someone other than webber to pull examples from. The guy has been absolutely steller on both ends of the ice. Having been paired with two bottom pairing defensmen and still playing his position phenomenally against top lines in tough minutes really explains to me how he's made everyone hes ever paired with look amazing. Lack of speed you say and I can't think of one odd man rush hes given up. A pivotal improvement on that of pk's ability, who would often times give up multiple odd man rushes per game.
What you can or can't remember is irrelevant. The numbers clearly show he's allowed 4 more of those than Subban, and their per 60 numbers are about the same. When you look at scoring chances, total or per 60, pk is better too.
Whether people he pairs with look amazing or not, they actually aren't and neither is he. In any real defensive metrics the whole Montreal team is on the bottom tier, and webber about top of the middle, middle of the top among Montreal defensemen defensively speaking.
Quote (Secksii @ 7 Nov 2016 20:23)
u didnt even have to write all that,
he wasn't a minus in a 10-0 game, that says everything lmao
One game doesn't make a trend, and +/- is a garbage Stat that's too goalers and luck driven to be any real use. Shot attempts against per 60 minutes, scoring chances against per 60, and shot attempts against /60 relative to teammates are how you measure a defenseman's defensive work