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Aug 27 2013 07:10pm
Quote (pcgamingred @ Aug 27 2013 06:51pm)
ladders and pvp primarily id say


pvp

played tpk 2's and 3's for 11 years up to release of d3 powpow.

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Aug 27 2013 07:25pm
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pvp

played tpk 2's and 3's for 11 years up to release of d3 powpow.

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yea but pvp wouldnt havent been close to what it was without the ladders. and vice versa.

id say they both equally had a huge impact on the longevity of the game
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Aug 27 2013 07:39pm
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yea but pvp wouldnt havent been close to what it was without the ladders. and vice versa.

id say they both equally had a huge impact on the longevity of the game


meh
d2jsp ruined that tho with fg now kids just buy fg n spend like 100k to buy the best gear on day 2 of reset
+ the hacks were pretty bad it got to a point before d3 released it was more hack wars then dueling

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yea but pvp wouldnt havent been close to what it was without the ladders. and vice versa.

id say they both equally had a huge impact on the longevity of the game


There were a lot of other little things, too (like the two I mentioned).


If Blizz added ladders and changed the PVP system to replicate D2's tomorrow, the game still wouldn't be as good as D2.


And another reason people think D2 is better is because of nostalgia, which D3 obviously can't give us. Most people remember D2 being so good and put it on a pedestal the same way people think that the TV shows and music when they were growing up were much better than it is now.
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Aug 27 2013 07:40pm
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There were a lot of other little things, too (like the two I mentioned).


If Blizz added ladders and changed the PVP system to replicate D2's tomorrow, the game still wouldn't be as good as D2.


And another reason people think D2 is better is because of nostalgia, which D3 obviously can't give us. Most people remember D2 being so good and put it on a pedestal the same way people think that the TV shows and music when they were growing up were much better than it is now.


no it owludnt becasue pvp isnt the issue with d3
the game itself the system the way to farm ect ect is whats crap for me
d2 was a good game whether u playd hardcore or casually ... d3 only way to go casually was to drop $$ in the rmah or accept the fact ur going to suck for a while

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Aug 27 2013 07:46pm
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no it owludnt becasue pvp isnt the issue with d3
the game itself the system the way to farm ect ect is whats crap for me
d2 was a good game whether u playd hardcore or casually ... d3 only way to go casually was to drop $$ in the rmah  or accept the fact ur going to suck for a while


only reason d2 wasnt like this is because of botting. are u complaining because not everyone has 5x bots anymore?
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Aug 27 2013 07:52pm
Quote (LuLer @ Aug 27 2013 09:39pm)
There were a lot of other little things, too (like the two I mentioned).


If Blizz added ladders and changed the PVP system to replicate D2's tomorrow, the game still wouldn't be as good as D2.


And another reason people think D2 is better is because of nostalgia, which D3 obviously can't give us. Most people remember D2 being so good and put it on a pedestal the same way people think that the TV shows and music when they were growing up were much better than it is now.


Music is shit nowaday lol
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Aug 27 2013 07:53pm
Quote (pcgamingred @ Aug 27 2013 09:46pm)
only reason d2 wasnt like this is because of botting. are u complaining because not everyone has 5x bots anymore?


well isnt that what they added paragon for ? to give the bots extra mf to make up for the lack of them?

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Music is shit nowaday lol


so true the new movies are fuckin garbage too

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Aug 27 2013 08:42pm
A few random comments:


1. I really hate how pretty much all the characters play the same way (except the DH, but she has her own stupid problems). You get a high DPS weapon with crit damage and crit chance and you stand in a mob and tank... even the casters like Wizard and Witch Doctor. Characters have no identity, they are all built the same way and they are all played the same way. I dislike the damage system in general.


2. Based on the short Crusader game-play video, seems to look exactly like the Monk. They are both melee holy warriors, after all. I guess that's the problem when you morph the D2 Assassin and Paladin into the D3 Monk; the assassin or paladin (crusader) just becomes a duplicate. Druid could work, though, maybe for the second expansion. We still don't have a shape-shifter and could use a better summoner than the weak WD system.


3. Can we get ladders or wut

This post was edited by LuLer on Aug 27 2013 08:42pm
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Aug 27 2013 09:13pm
Quote (LuLer @ Aug 27 2013 10:42pm)
A few random comments:


1. I really hate how pretty much all the characters play the same way (except the DH, but she has her own stupid problems). You get a high DPS weapon with crit damage and crit chance and you stand in a mob and tank... even the casters like Wizard and Witch Doctor. Characters have no identity, they are all built the same way and they are all played the same way. I dislike the damage system in general.


2. Based on the short Crusader game-play video, seems to look exactly like the Monk. They are both melee holy warriors, after all. I guess that's the problem when you morph the D2 Assassin and Paladin into the D3 Monk; the assassin or paladin (crusader) just becomes a duplicate. Druid could work, though, maybe for the second expansion. We still don't have a shape-shifter and could use a better summoner than the weak WD system.


3. Can we get ladders or wut


the crusader is a rip off wow and d2 pally skills they basicly just mixed them and named it the crusader
atelast be original and create new skills n shit for a new character dont recycle the shit from other games if your going to release it as a dlc character

This post was edited by dragoneth on Aug 27 2013 09:14pm
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