Quote (Moink @ Oct 7 2016 02:32pm)

pipe dream that he does drop it

But he can be stripped of it - if results don't change.

My only argument though - is that he's not solely responsible for the results of last seasons collapse. And I can't say he attributed to it by stats or by him being there. But he sure didnt make it better

Quote (Moink @ 7 Oct 2016 12:26)

Patches is Montreals version of Toronto's Phil Kessel.

He's no Captain - period.

Doesn't mean he's not a good player - and that perhaps behind the scenes he has the right mind-set and clearly the teams vote.

But as an integral part to the future of the franchise? Nope. A key player - of course. But he's a piece of the puzzle and not the picture.

Now to his defense

He was three points shy of his previous years record year, and still his second career best year. In a collapsing team - with poor goal tending, no confidence in the group and a cluster fuck of a front office.

The guy does what he's supposed to do, each and every game - with no complaints.

He doesn't deserve to be traded just to become an asset to another contender. We can be contender.I don't believe we are . But with Radulov, and Weber, we should see some noticeable improvements both up front and on the blue line. Both of which will take some pressure off of Patches - and with Subban gone that's one less person to be accountable for. Subban is his own person, a great player, and a great asset - but he plays his own way, and Therrien, Patches and Co had zero control of that situation.


If Price remains healthy. Radulov can keep consistent numbers - (40-50 points targets) and Weber keeps up his consistency of the last few years - then we have a solid chance of actually being a contender.

But I feel Patches needs to drop the C

and we still need another Key defender - because Markov isn't getting younger, and there will be a big hole to fill when he's gone.

I do not forsee another contract for him

Quote (StephanePare @ 8 Oct 2016 05:08)

The only things webber have been consistent in the last few years is allowing more than average scoring chances and scoring on the power play. Oh, and putting himself off position to land those impressive looking hits, but that's part of the reason why he concedes so many scoring opportunities.

People will watch him stamp people into the boards and score a few goals, they'll think we got some elite D, and not notice how unreliable he is where it counts, or how little he improves his 4 teammates' production.

Radio, however... I wouldn't be surprised to see him do 60-70 this year. Probably knocking at the door of the top 10 League scorers but not quite reaching that, however many points that means.

Quote (StephanePare @ Oct 8 2016 06:08am)

The only things webber have been consistent in the last few years is allowing more than average scoring chances and scoring on the power play. Oh, and putting himself off position to land those impressive looking hits, but that's part of the reason why he concedes so many scoring opportunities.

People will watch him stamp people into the boards and score a few goals, they'll think we got some elite D, and not notice how unreliable he is where it counts, or how little he improves his 4 teammates' production.

Radio, however... I wouldn't be surprised to see him do 60-70 this year. Probably knocking at the door of the top 10 League scorers but not quite reaching that, however many points that means.

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Quote (do_NaUKI @ Oct 15 2016 11:00pm)

price come back...

Quote (Chadzle @ Oct 8 2016 10:45pm)

I love a good set of teeth. Sars diamonds got some.

Quote (Moink @ Oct 8 2016 08:11am)

Nah - you're wrong.

Weber may not be sound positionally to land those hits - but neither was Subban - ever.

And that was under a completely different play style and coaching system.

Did you watch the WCoH?

I was there for the Canada vs Russia game - and he's honestly one of the most level headed traditional defense men I've ever seen. When Pricey flat out say's it's a good adjustment, and he likes having him in front of him - it tells you there's something positive to look for.


And he's not intended to improve their production - rather reduce the opposing teams production.


Subban did not improve his line mates production. In fact - he hurt their production because it was always a predictable dump, chase, feed to Subban - slap-o-rama, recover and repeat.
Every team on the East had him figured out, and he was always a walking target due to that.

Now I'm not saying Weber isn't another target with his shot - and I guaranfuckingtee that MT will pretty much try the same shit - but Weber is selfless enough to simply give the puck to the person with the best positional chance. Because he's not a showboat.


I love Subban - for who he is - what he is , and how he is. But it didn't work for Montreal. Not anymore