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Apr 11 2017 10:56am
Edmonton is basically mad max world up there, so I understand he can't comprehend that rape, assault and hate crimes aren't supposed to be normal.
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Apr 11 2017 11:00am
Quote (StayPositive @ 11 Apr 2017 09:56)
Edmonton is basically mad max world up there, so I understand he can't comprehend that rape, assault and hate crimes aren't supposed to be normal.


true that,
i mean if he truely believes that any airlines can assault someone off their plane because they are allowed to deny their service to them,
that air security cop should put in a grievance for getting suspended, and chicago police shouldnt have retracted the victim "fell" statement jajaja (they obviously did when they saw the video of his face being smashed against the arm rest, hard enough for the arm rest to break off)

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Now putting words in my mouth? Where did I say assault was fine? I simply said they have the right to remove you for any reason. If you want to get mad and stomp your feet and make a scene. That's on you. The airline will remove you regardless what scene you make because it's THEIR RIGHT
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Apr 11 2017 12:02pm
Quote (StayPositive @ Apr 11 2017 10:56am)
Edmonton is basically mad max world up there, so I understand he can't comprehend that rape, assault and hate crimes aren't supposed to be normal.


This was a hate crime? And a rape? Anything is in the eyes of SP
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Apr 11 2017 12:03pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Apr 11 2017 01:59pm)
Now putting words in my mouth? Where did I say assault was fine? I simply said they have the right to remove you for any reason. If you want to get mad and stomp your feet and make a scene. That's on you. The airline will remove you regardless what scene you make because it's THEIR RIGHT


hes saying the way he was removed was unethical practice.
they have restraint training (non abusive)


its a procedure in which you do it safely, without abusing the "client"

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hes saying the way he was removed was unethical practice.
they have restraint training (non abusive)


its a procedure in which you do it safely, without abusing the "client"



Ok. And what happens when someone's asked to leave. And they refuse to leave? Hmmmmm
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Ok. And what happens when someone's asked to leave. And they refuse to leave? Hmmmmm


idk if you have trouble reading
they're procedures in place to prevent "abusive" restraints or escorts

i do it a few times a week at my school, we get in huge shit if we deviate from the proper technique.

slamming someones head into the seat isn't part of the procedure, theres 3 big men with a little old guy to worry about. not a hard escort.
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Quote (Tear @ Apr 11 2017 12:12pm)
idk if you have trouble reading
they're procedures in place to prevent "abusive" restraints or escorts

i do it a few times a week at my school, we get in huge shit if we deviate from the proper technique.

slamming someones head into the seat isn't part of the procedure, theres 3 big men with a little old guy to worry about. not a hard escort.



Not sure if you're just a retard or not. But when someone refuses to move. Force Has to be used. You can't just ask nicely and if they don't comply you just say "pretty please". Sure maybe in this case the extent of force applied may have been a little excessive. but to think none is needed is asinine.

The police had to do their job and he only made it worse for himself by resisting the way he did.

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Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Apr 11 2017 02:18pm)
Not sure if you're just a retard or not. But when someone refuses to move. Force Has to be used. You can't just ask nicely and if they don't comply you just say "pretty please". Sure maybe in this case the extent of force applied may have been a little excessive. but to think none is needed is asinine.


where did i say none was needed?!

im saying they have techniques (i know this because i have the same fucking training) that are NON ABUSIVE RESTRAINT/ESCORT techniques.

NON ABUSIVE
do you know the definition of that?

you can EASILY remove that passenger without going down that rabbit hole the security/cops did.
like that escort should of led to zero injury period. that's what ive been saying and you somehow think im saying dont use force?!


i legit do the same restraints/escorts as cops do a few times a week.
theres absolutely NO need for that excessive force

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Quote (Tear @ Apr 11 2017 12:21pm)
where did i say none was needed?!

im saying they have techniques (i know this because i have the same fucking training) that are NON ABUSIVE RESTRAINT/ESCORT techniques.

NON ABUSIVE
do you know the definition of that?

you can EASILY remove that passenger without going down that rabbit hole the security/cops did.
like that escort should of led to zero injury period. that's what ive been saying and you somehow think im saying dont use force?!


i legit do the same restraints/escorts as cops do a few times a week.
theres absolutely NO need for that excessive force



Provide me an example of your special training in this situation which would have resulted in using your force to take this man off a plane.
Would love to hear this.

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