i got over the fact the game was rushed theres still no pvp the story is crap and the gameplay is good and it had potential after patching
but exploits ruined the economy making the game fucked right from the start then all the "fixes" they added...they were anything but

This post was edited by dragoneth on Feb 21 2013 09:08am

there is pvp
theres exploits in every game

just saying the ah didnt ruin anything. people left this game cause it was so damn boring and repetitiveness, not because of the ah or some random exploit

This post was edited by partank on Feb 21 2013 09:16am

the ah exploits help made that happen tho thats the problem ... and they finally added pvp? lol i havnt played in a while besides the 5 mins after reinstalling it the other day didnt know

the ah exploits made the economy go to shit because some people had 9999999999999999 gold and some had 100k so people could overprice good items n they would sell
this made it pay to win or farm like crazy for petty amounts of gold ..but farm what? so they added key runs which were fun for about a week but u need 5 stacks so instead of a d2 style 5 min boss run its a 20 min boss battle then u gotta new game u cant go to wp n go to a new boss in another act with 5 stacks
games to hard/easy so they add monster power then prob nerfed them to be easier because they were to hard and pretty much need mp5+ to find keys so people that want to can actually farm them
keep in mind they just randomly added paragon levels for whatever reason.. yeah cool i got like plvl 4 with added stats and mf while some botter is at plvl 50 supplying the pay to win players ...yeah thats good for players

This post was edited by dragoneth on Feb 21 2013 09:34am

d2 style farming is a lot more boring and everything else you cry about is the same @ d2

what made d2 fun is the ladder... plain and simple.

and what made a restart ladder impossible is the AH.

So I guess dragoneth is correct.

because you assume its difficult to make ladder and non lad auction house listings?
ok

not that... people I think people that spend $ wont spend that much money if they knew someday their character wont be in ''somewhat'' competitive mode

ehh perhaps. but id say "competitive mode" would be considered pvp, and the best of that usually happens in nonladder. a lot people would definitely stop farming in non lad which increase gold value a bit in non lad anyways, overtime and not have it continuously plummet.

idk, dont really see how it would change much, people still spend money on d2 non ladder so id think they would still spend it here if they have it

True enough, you right

and running around kililng mobs to get 5 stacks then doing a key boss and save exit to a new game isnt?
atleast d2 style u had a chance to find uniqes if u had 5 mins ui could do andy n meph a few times or a baal run... d3 u gotta farm 5 stacks before u do anything just to run 1 boss? that blows makes it so time consuimng just to do 1 run
then you get a little bit of gold and a rares with like 1 in 100 chance its worth more then 50k and a unie with like 1 in 50 chance its a good roll worth more then 500k
atleast d2 you had a way to farm and build up wealth d3 is just a boring farm fest that doesnt pay off

This post was edited by dragoneth on Feb 21 2013 12:37pm