d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > Sports Coliseum > Hockey > Official Rumor Thread > Trades/draft Day/ufas
Prev16036046056066071445Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 26,437
Joined: Jan 20 2013
Gold: 982.86
Aug 7 2015 09:50am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 7 2015 11:24am)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449454/More-men-raped-US-women-including-prison-sexual-abuse.html

And if you think women don't report rape the likely hood of male reporting it is a whole lot less.

It's funny though there are tons of programs to help women of abuse and rape but none for men yet men are abused by their spouse more than women and also raped more yet there are no social programs to help these men. Great society we live in eh.


I have never seen any stats to support that more men are abused by their spouse than women are.


I have seen that more are raped when counting prison stats though.

I agree there should be more support for men who are victims of rape as well.

But NO victim of rape should be told it's their fault

the situation being bad for men is not an excuse to make the situation worse for women by victim blaming.
Member
Posts: 37,239
Joined: Oct 13 2008
Gold: 3,375.01
Aug 7 2015 09:55am
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/

I agree no one should be blamed before a trial occurs that's my I honestly think media should not be involved until after the verdict has been reached then report.

Member
Posts: 45,148
Joined: Mar 8 2008
Gold: 795.90
Aug 7 2015 10:06am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 7 2015 11:55am)
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/

I agree no one should be blamed before a trial occurs that's my I honestly think media should not be involved until after the verdict has been reached then report.


Holy shit I agree with you on something
Member
Posts: 26,437
Joined: Jan 20 2013
Gold: 982.86
Aug 7 2015 10:09am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 7 2015 11:55am)
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/

I agree no one should be blamed before a trial occurs that's my I honestly think media should not be involved until after the verdict has been reached then report.


I dont really agree with how that survey is conducted in order to draw the conclusion that more men are abused.

but even if its 45-55 or 40-60 as is the lowest you could think it was after reading that article the numbers are stilll surprising.

but as i say, mistreatment and lack of services for men is not a reason to distrust women's accounts.

Nor are the anecdotal experiences we may have with false accusations. (for example drago saying that as many lifes are damaged by false reporting as by rape.)

Certainly interesting to see the numbers though my unresearched opinion that spousal abuse was likely 30-70
Member
Posts: 30,013
Joined: Mar 11 2010
Gold: 9,010.10
Aug 7 2015 10:15am
Quote (Nearin @ Aug 7 2015 08:09am)
I dont really agree with how that survey is conducted in order to draw the conclusion that more men are abused.

but even if its 45-55 or 40-60 as is the lowest you could think it was after reading that article the numbers are stilll surprising.

but as i say, mistreatment and lack of services for men is not a reason to distrust women's accounts.

Nor are the anecdotal experiences we may have with false accusations. (for example drago saying that as many lifes are damaged by false reporting as by rape.)

Certainly interesting to see the numbers though my unresearched opinion that spousal abuse was likely 30-70


Well I can guarantee you he's searching 'more men raped than women,' as opposed to 'rape statistics' etc, and posting whatever shows up.
Member
Posts: 26,437
Joined: Jan 20 2013
Gold: 982.86
Aug 7 2015 10:23am
Quote (StayPositive @ Aug 7 2015 12:15pm)
Well I can guarantee you he's searching 'more men raped than women,' as opposed to 'rape statistics' etc, and posting whatever shows up.


Still if you read the article even being hyper critical, it references studies i trust much more and the numbers are still surprising.

All im saying is thats not a reason to assume kane is innocent, nor should we immediately assume hes guilty.
The discussion was originally that we are too quick to blame the victim if the accused has any level of success.
Member
Posts: 37,239
Joined: Oct 13 2008
Gold: 3,375.01
Aug 7 2015 10:24am
Quote (StayPositive @ Aug 7 2015 09:15am)
Well I can guarantee you he's searching 'more men raped than women,' as opposed to 'rape statistics' etc, and posting whatever shows up.


It's not unbelievable that men are raped more than women especially when I back it up with the stats.., you're just being a stubborn prick as usual.

This post was edited by dirTyMan on Aug 7 2015 10:25am
Member
Posts: 51,682
Joined: Jul 27 2007
Gold: 0.90
Aug 7 2015 10:29am
Skipped a few pages, but it went from dirtyman immediately assuming that the woman was making false accusations for personal gain, now trying to validate this by saying more men are raped?
Member
Posts: 37,239
Joined: Oct 13 2008
Gold: 3,375.01
Aug 7 2015 10:33am
Quote (Meatstick @ Aug 7 2015 09:29am)
Skipped a few pages, but it went from dirtyman immediately assuming that the woman was making false accusations for personal gain, now trying to validate this by saying more men are raped?


I never once said anything to suggest I was blaming the woman in question. All I'm saying is lets not jump to conclusion for either side. If it turns out kane is a rapist , then he's a rapist, but people shouldn't burn him at the stake before a verdict is settled, nor should people assume she is lying.

It's cases like these where peoples reputation can be tarnished even if they are found not guilty.
Member
Posts: 45,148
Joined: Mar 8 2008
Gold: 795.90
Aug 7 2015 10:43am
Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 7 2015 12:33pm)
I never once said anything to suggest I was blaming the woman in question. All I'm saying is lets not jump to conclusion for either side. If it turns out kane is a rapist , then he's a rapist, but people shouldn't burn him at the stake before a verdict is settled, nor should people assume she is lying.

It's cases like these where peoples reputation can be tarnished even if they are found not guilty.


Stop making sense.

Also just to remind everyone, if Kane settles that isn't a confession of guilt. The unfortunate truth of the legal system is that sometimes it costs less to pay someone to go away than it does to prove you're innocent. I doubt we ever really find out what happened.

This post was edited by dxlightning on Aug 7 2015 10:43am
Go Back To Hockey Topic List
Prev16036046056066071445Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll