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Feb 28 2013 05:35pm
lol he's definitely not worth what CGY is offering
let them overpay and fall out of playoffs for years :ph34r:
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Feb 28 2013 05:37pm
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4.5 mil now, but in 2 years if Feaster doesn't give him 6.5 per and he refuses he's a UFA

If Colorado matches they're retarded


Oh I know, I am simply saying his fair market value is probably around 4.54m aav, to be honest this offer sheet was improperly loaded in order to minimize potential for matching while maximizing negotiation ability at the end. Should have been bonus loaded front and dive as much as possible to make minimum QO lower.

the arb award has to be at min 85% of the total comp in the final year of the prior SPC - s12.3(a)(ii) - from twitter
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Feb 28 2013 05:40pm
@corsi graphs
Is that just the person's overall corsi, or his corsi while physically on the ice with O'Reilly?
If it's the overall corsi you're just comparing the avs' overall puck possession from previous years to what it is this year. Not exactly conclusive that it's because of him.

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4.5 mil now, but in 2 years if Feaster doesn't give him 6.5 per and he refuses he's a UFA

If Colorado matches they're retarded


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Feb 28 2013 05:43pm
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@corsi graphs
Is that just the person's overall corsi, or his corsi while physically on the ice with O'Reilly?
If it's the overall corsi you're just comparing the avs' overall puck possession from previous years to what it is this year. Not exactly conclusive that it's because of him.


Each players corsi rating with RoR vs w/o RoR.

(Minimum 50min played w/ him)

e: theres ton more written about how effective and important he is, I linked a few more analysis of it but

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Feb 28 2013 05:43pm
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lol he's definitely not worth what CGY is offering
let them overpay and fall out of playoffs for years :ph34r:


Gotta be in the playoffs to fall out of them.
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Feb 28 2013 05:44pm
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Each players corsi rating with RoR vs w/o RoR.

(Minimum 50min played w/ him)

e: theres ton more written about how effective and important he is, I linked a few more analysis of it but


I know that it's with and without him. Is it with him physically on the ice though, or just with him on the team?
I can read graphs, but if it's just with him on the team this means nothing aside from the fact that the avs are worse this year.

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I know that it's with and without him. Is it with him physically on the ice though, or just with him on the team?
I can read graphs, but if it's just with him on the team this means nothing.


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This graph is the ES Corsi of all Avs players with 50min of time on ice with Ryan O'Rilly last season


Thought I made it clear, it's him physically playing with and without them
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Feb 28 2013 05:47pm
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Thought I made it clear, it's him physically playing with and without them


If that's the explanation then no, that's not what it is. Because the numbers then include stats from when they aren't on the ice with him.
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Feb 28 2013 05:48pm
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If that's the explanation then no, that's not what it is. Because the numbers then include stats from when they aren't on the ice with him.


How?

ALL players who physically played a minimum of 50 minutes with him, so if you played 50 minutes with RoR your 50 minutes of time shows up as Green and your 32 minutes without is green

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