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Jul 9 2019 08:58am
I love reading stuff like that, thanks for posting m8.
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Jul 9 2019 10:45am
Quote (Secksii @ Jul 9 2019 10:20am)
Cuz based on their analytics they have of him, he only has 23% of performing a positive value of 5m.

Its like asking why Eriksson's value is low, if the Canucks signed him to a 1 yr deal for 6m and he performed like any of the past 3 years. He didn't perform like a 6m player.



They expect about 3 yrs of positive value from skinner, then the remaining 5 yrs be trash. He has 45% chance of it though, which aren't good odds for 8yrs.


ceci shouldnt get 4.5m i get it, but 700k? really? lol
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Jul 9 2019 11:15am
Quote (partank @ 9 Jul 2019 09:45)
ceci shouldnt get 4.5m i get it, but 700k? really? lol




Ceci is a below replacement level defender that isn’t used like one. Perhaps he can perform better in a sheltered role, but a cap-strapped team like Toronto is paying far too much for that.
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yeah they pretty much go over the whole thing, most FA signing is a ripoff since they end up being traded/bought out before the contract expires cuz the player starts to suck later years into contract. They go over Zuccarello's too, quite a read.

Mats Zuccarello signed the exact same contract for the Wild as Myers did: Five years, $30 million. For a forward, the expectation is top six production, or 7.2 wins over five years. At age 32, Zuccarello will be worth it for a little bit, but as he gets older, that contract gets worse and worse. In Year 1, he has a 66 percent chance of providing positive value, but that drops every year to 54 percent, then 44 percent, then 35 percent, then 26 percent in Year 5. Over a five year deal, Zuccarello is likely to provide positive expected value in less than half the years. In total, his chances of providing positive value over the entire deal is 42.6 percent.

Zuccarello and Myers are unsurprisingly not alone. Of the 37 deals signed with a cap hit north of $1.5 million, only 10 are likely to provide positive value and the average probability is 41 percent. On average, the amount of “positive” value years is just 32 percent, with more than half providing zero such years.

This list shows which contracts give out the most positive value per contract
https://i.imgur.com/GWjyA6V.png


What site did you grab this from?
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Jul 10 2019 06:42pm
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What site did you grab this from?


It's one of the articles from athletics
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Jul 10 2019 09:48pm
Unless he for some reason complete hits a wall Eriksson style it's hard to find a negative with this one.

- Fair or even cheap value for his production
- Not the long term you'd expect from a UFA signing
- Doesn't have to be protected in expansion
- NMC goes away in years 3 and 4 which will probably be when he starts to decline during this contract (if at all)
- Physicality X-factor

This post was edited by LuLer on Jul 10 2019 09:48pm
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Jul 10 2019 10:49pm
yep I actually like the signing. but now Benning really has to get rid of all the retarded contracts he gave to Erikkson/Sutter/Beagle over the next 2 years so we don't lose one of our young guns.
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Jul 11 2019 12:18am

A surprisingly sensible cap hit and term for Ferland who should fit well in Vancouver’s middle six, as long as he’s surrounded by talented players that can get the best of him.
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Jul 11 2019 08:43am
seems like decent deal for ferland and ceci worth 700k? lol what
some of these analytics are weird as f

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 11 2019 08:51am
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