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Jul 5 2019 07:09pm
Tanev might get a few (non 1st rounder) picks at the deadline if he somehow doesn't get injured.

Sutter gets back a warm body at best and that's if we retain.

It took a 1st to dump one year of Marleau. Eriksson is 3 Marleaus. AKA we're stuck unless he shows some pride and retires.

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Three scouts, Chris MacDonald, Dan Palango and Paul Gallagher, have all been removed from the Canucks’ website in recent days.

Guess they didn't like the Podkolzin pick huhehue


Q and O scouts so no big loss.

This post was edited by LuLer on Jul 5 2019 07:09pm
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Jul 5 2019 10:18pm
erikkson needs to set this up then LTIRetire

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Quote (LuLer @ Jul 5 2019 05:09pm)
Tanev might get a few (non 1st rounder) picks at the deadline if he somehow doesn't get injured.

Sutter gets back a warm body at best and that's if we retain.

It took a 1st to dump one year of Marleau. Eriksson is 3 Marleaus. AKA we're stuck unless he shows some pride and retires.



Q and O scouts so no big loss.


Why cant we send him to the minors? Not like anyone will pick him up on waivers.
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Jul 8 2019 02:35pm
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Why cant we send him to the minors? Not like anyone will pick him up on waivers.


You can but it only saves you 925k or whatever

They made it so you can't bury contracts after last cba

This post was edited by LuLer on Jul 8 2019 02:35pm
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You can but it only saves you 925k or whatever

They made it so you can't bury contracts after last cba


yeah but if he retires?
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Jul 8 2019 02:54pm
Quote (LooseyGoosey11 @ Jul 8 2019 04:40pm)
yeah but if he retires?


u need sum ltir
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Quote (LooseyGoosey11 @ 8 Jul 2019 13:40)
yeah but if he retires?


He said he has no intentions of retiring and will show up to play for lolnucks. Maybe if he takes off his suit and just camps the net in front on a line with Petey /boeser, he can be a 30g player again kappa. Then Miller can be set with bo/pearson yeeeee


Let’s look at the Tyler Myers contract as an example. The Vancouver Canucks controversially gave Myers a deal worth $30 million over five seasons. Based on that salary and the cost of a win, the Canucks are expecting Myers to provide nearly six wins of value over the duration of his contract which is in the territory of a No. 2 defenseman. So too is his cap hit percentage which is the 39th largest for a defenseman. By GSVA – and after factoring for more ice-time and perhaps even a larger opportunity on the power play – Myers is expected to only provide two wins of value over the next five years – just over one-third of what’s expected of him. It’s an overpayment of over $14 million, nearly half of his total contract worth. At five years (it really shouldn’t have been five years), $3.1 million per would’ve been much more palatable.

We are doomed boyzz

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Quote (LooseyGoosey11 @ Jul 8 2019 01:40pm)
yeah but if he retires?


That would be best case scenario but he's leaving a lot of money on the table lol.

If we were really desperate to get rid of him we'd send him to the ECHL and hope he doesn't show, however the PA would probably file a grievance and it might hurt our chances with future UFAs.
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Quote (LuLer @ Jul 5 2019 06:09pm)
Tanev might get a few (non 1st rounder) picks at the deadline if he somehow doesn't get injured.

Sutter gets back a warm body at best and that's if we retain.

It took a 1st to dump one year of Marleau. Eriksson is 3 Marleaus. AKA we're stuck unless he shows some pride and retires.



Q and O scouts so no big loss.


Either way we are stuck.

It was a horrible signing. Made no sense at the time and is even worse now.

He was primarily signed to play with the Sedins when they were in their late 30's and on their way out.

You can't blame the player for signing in a paradise of a city if you got the money on a long term deal when you are past your prime.

He is just too damn slow. So many times last year he actually put himself in a good spot but could not even get a scoring chance because he got chased down so quickly.

It will only get worse. I see him being a regular scratch.
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Quote (Secksii @ Jul 8 2019 02:08pm)
He said he has no intentions of retiring and will show up to play for lolnucks. Maybe if he takes off his suit and just camps the net in front on a line with Petey /boeser, he can be a 30g player again kappa. Then Miller can be set with bo/pearson yeeeee


Let’s look at the Tyler Myers contract as an example. The Vancouver Canucks controversially gave Myers a deal worth $30 million over five seasons. Based on that salary and the cost of a win, the Canucks are expecting Myers to provide nearly six wins of value over the duration of his contract which is in the territory of a No. 2 defenseman. So too is his cap hit percentage which is the 39th largest for a defenseman. By GSVA – and after factoring for more ice-time and perhaps even a larger opportunity on the power play – Myers is expected to only provide two wins of value over the next five years – just over one-third of what’s expected of him. It’s an overpayment of over $14 million, nearly half of his total contract worth. At five years (it really shouldn’t have been five years), $3.1 million per would’ve been much more palatable.

We are doomed boyzz


To be fair I would imagine just about every FA signing would be considered a ripoff if you look at it using this method. Nevertheless it is quite an interesting way to view value in signings.

I just feel this is skewed by players who are on good contracts after resigning with their current team. The result is the player improves over that duration and the cap % decreases as the salary cap goes up. These types of deals will make already poor value (most of the time) free agent signings look even worse.

When you look at the FA market a near opposite is the case. You have teams having to overpay free agents to lure them in combined with (usually) having to sign a player to a long term deal who is past, or will be past their prime for a large portion of the contract.

I really don't think the deal is that bad when compared to other FA deals. Apparently he even left money on the table to play here. Kevin Hayes got a 50 million contract and averages ~ 20 goals a season while never getting over 50 points.

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