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Sep 29 2015 12:26am
Quote (pcgamingred @ 28 Sep 2015 23:41)
you missed the point completely.

my point is they value flash and entertainment factor over quality of performance on ice level. when the decided to pay him 9 mil a year for 8 years they werent putting their money solely toward winning hockey games like you think. they were locking up the flashiest most interesting defenseman in the league (an automatic mass ticket seller/marketing tool) to help grow their business.


They also locked a perpetual Norris candidate who's known for an impeccable work ethic and who's in the top 5 of the best defenseman in the league.
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Sep 29 2015 11:04am
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They also locked a perpetual Norris candidate who's known for an impeccable work ethic and who's in the top 5 of the best defenseman in the league.


you mean the same guy who couldnt even crack the top 6 on team canada? the same guy who was outplayed in the playoffs by a guy we brought in at the deadline making only 3M?

love it that the only argument ever brought up in favor of subban is an award based around flashiness and entertainment.

no top 5 player in the league is a loose cannon like he is. the potential is there but its a long ways away.

as for management craing about what the media says, mystic is out to lunch as usual. everyone was calling for therriens head cause he would put glachy at center for 3 years. good thing he didnt cave because of a couple media losers who need something to talk about. eller himself said theres not much of a difference between wing and center. if galchy was as good as everyone says he would have no trouble proving it no matter where he played. the best goal scorer in the league is a left winger.
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Sep 29 2015 12:23pm
Quote (pcgamingred @ 29 Sep 2015 13:04)
you mean the same guy who couldnt even crack the top 6 on team canada? the same guy who was outplayed in the playoffs by a guy we brought in at the deadline making only 3M?

love it that the only argument ever brought up in favor of subban is an award based around flashiness and entertainment.

no top 5 player in the league is a loose cannon like he is. the potential is there but its a long ways away.

as for management craing about what the media says, mystic is out to lunch as usual. everyone was calling for therriens head cause he would put glachy at center for 3 years. good thing he didnt cave because of a couple media losers who need something to talk about. eller himself said theres not much of a difference between wing and center. if galchy was as good as everyone says he would have no trouble proving it no matter where he played. the best goal scorer in the league is a left winger.


If you think petry outplayed him, you need to learn more about hockey. Actually your whole statement ranks of ignorance. Yes, there is a huge difference between center and winger.

In fact, there's an average 20% point difference and it's such a vital position, they get paid more for the same production and Babcock admitted that the difference between the quality of his centers vs those if Tampa Bay made call the difference in the series. Ever heard that about wingers?

Maybe if Eller understood that better, he'd be playing more minutes instead of struggling to justify his own usage.

As for galcheniuk, he's been putting up middling first line numbers while being used as a 2nd liner, that's the proof he is as good as they say, let's just let him play more minutes.

This post was edited by StephanePare on Sep 29 2015 12:27pm
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Sep 29 2015 06:28pm
Habs quiz#192837

Emelin
Barberio
Gilbert
Tinordi
Patteryn


Who are you keeping for 5-6th d

Also who are you sending to waivers or though on what will happen

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Sep 29 2015 06:34pm
Quote (Subban @ Sep 29 2015 08:28pm)
Habs quiz#192837

Emelin
Barberio
Gilbert
Tinordi
Patteryn


Who are you keeping for 5-6th d

Also who are you sending to waivers or though on what will happen


Pateryn and barberio

Trade emelin...try to trade emelin
Trade tinordi
Keep gilbert cuz untradable

This post was edited by max09 on Sep 29 2015 06:34pm
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Sep 29 2015 06:41pm
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Pateryn and barberio

Trade emelin...try to trade emelin
Trade tinordi
Keep gilbert cuz untradable



Gilbert might be the easiest one to trade actually
With a 2.8m salary he could fill a bottom roster on a couple team
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Sep 29 2015 06:43pm
Quote (Subban @ Sep 29 2015 08:41pm)
Gilbert might be the easiest one to trade actually
With a 2.8m salary he could fill a bottom roster on a couple team


I dunno....emelin at least hit hard

Gilbert is soft as fuck
not so fast
Not that good on the 2nd pp wave
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Sep 29 2015 06:46pm
Quote (max09 @ Sep 29 2015 08:43pm)
I dunno....emelin at least hit hard

Gilbert is soft as fuck
not so fast
Not that good on the 2nd pp wave



Emelin always out of position and barely hit anything during season because he doesnt have the speed to play at nhl level but he has a stunning 4m contract
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Sep 29 2015 07:11pm
Quote (Subban @ Sep 29 2015 08:46pm)
Emelin always out of position and barely hit anything during season because he doesnt have the speed to play at nhl level but he has a stunning 4m contract


Ssshhhhhh
Some team may not know that yet
Bruins could possibly want him ...just to piss off lucic o.o
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Quote (Subban @ Sep 29 2015 08:28pm)
Habs quiz#192837

Emelin
Barberio
Gilbert
Tinordi
Patteryn


Who are you keeping for 5-6th d

Also who are you sending to waivers or though on what will happen


tinordi/gilbert

havent seen enough of barberio
emelin is slow as fuck, never hits anymore, terrible positionally, terrible player, overrated
patteryn is a smart player. doesnt really get caught out of position but doesnt awe me either.

tinordi has the most potential out of all of these and for that i think he should get a chance with the big club. even though he makes a few mistakes, i would bet he would learn quickly once the stress of camp is gone. plus no one hits harder than this guy plus he can fight pretty good.
gilbert was a pleasent surprise of last year. nothing exceptional but a great depth guy. doesnt give up odd man rushes from bad positioning. gets the puck out smoothly. can be pretty offensive at times. good solid all around vet dman for a fair price.
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