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Oct 20 2014 12:31pm
Quote (dxlightning @ Oct 20 2014 03:29pm)
He's not. CBA article 18-A section 2, he forfeits salary and bonuses equal to the number of days he's suspended.


All the reports are saying it's a paid suspension
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Oct 20 2014 12:34pm
Quote (Cratic @ Oct 20 2014 02:31pm)
All the reports are saying it's a paid suspension


Well that's stupid :lol: They must have gotten sign-off on that because it's pretty clear in the cba...
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Oct 20 2014 12:56pm
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Well that's stupid :lol: They must have gotten sign-off on that because it's pretty clear in the cba...


Would also be pretty dumb if he was being suspended without pay before being found guilty, and would open up for him to say that these false allegations have damaged his reputation, finances, work environment etc etc. much of which is true but the no pay would be the icing on the cake. and give him a reallyu good argument for damages if he is found innocent
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Oct 20 2014 01:03pm
Quote (Nearin @ Oct 20 2014 02:56pm)
Would also be pretty dumb if he was being suspended without pay before being found guilty, and would open up for him to say that these false allegations have damaged his reputation, finances, work environment etc etc. much of which is true but the no pay would be the icing on the cake.  and give him a reallyu good argument for damages if he is found innocent


It wouldn't. He's part of the NHLPA and is subject to the terms in the CBA, which gives the league the right to suspend him pending a criminal investigation without pay.

Whether he's innocent or not, it damages the league more than it damages him if they do nothing.

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Quote (Pens @ Oct 20 2014 01:15pm)
Why are these guys hitting their wives/kids?

Isn't that what prostitutes are for?



well idk about RR but thats 2 russian nhlers lol
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Oct 20 2014 01:13pm
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It wouldn't. He's part of the NHLPA and is subject to the terms in the CBA, which gives the league the right to suspend him pending a criminal investigation without pay.

Whether he's innocent or not, it damages the league more than it damages him if they do nothing.


Hence why suspending with pay is the perfect solution, that way they are perceived as having done something with out punishing a potentially innocent person.

I don't know shit about the case i haven't read anything other than jsp regarding it, and I am not familiar with their CBA but I find it surprising that they can suspend without pay, without any evidence. and thus real cause for suspension. What does the agreement say about cause for suspensions? I suspect he is being suspend on the grounds of his actions being damaging to the league.

Lets say, hypothetically, It were a case where the alleged charges were proven to be baseless slander you dont think NHL or NHLPA (not sure which for this shit) would owe him damages for lost wages, reputation etc etc?

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Hence why suspending with pay is the perfect solution, that way they are perceived as having done something with out punishing a potentially innocent person.

I don't know shit about the case i haven't read anything other than jsp regarding it, and I am not familiar with their CBA but I find it surprising that they can suspend without pay,  without any evidence. and thus real cause for suspension. What does the agreement say about cause for suspensions? I suspect he is being suspend on the grounds of  his actions being damaging to the league.

Lets say, hypothetically, It were a case where the alleged charges were  proven to be baseless slander you dont think NHL or NHLPA (not sure which for this shit) would owe him damages for lost wages, reputation etc etc?


He has the ability to appeal and have a hearing with the league. What's worse - he actually did it and was paid the whole time, or he didn't do it, and gets reimbursed when he's found innocent?
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Oct 20 2014 01:34pm
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He has the ability to appeal and have a hearing with the league. What's worse - he actually did it and was paid the whole time, or he didn't do it, and gets reimbursed when he's found innocent?


ofc the former I just was looking for that last part because you didnt say it the first time and i was like what, that's not gonna work
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Oct 20 2014 02:19pm
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d26c855f978d423a9c92a486104b8a34/voynov-suspended-after-domestic-violence-charges

Updated with new information. He could face more charges. Sounds like the victim was pretty scared and banged up
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