Quote (Darc-Deth @ Nov 30 2015 10:05pm)

also ive been advocating for prones tag removal for over a year

cratic would never have done it regardless of what the other meds had said
well see how the current vote goes

Quote (Prone @ Nov 30 2015 09:07pm)

:wub: I remember when you used to hate me. lol

Quote (jbell886 @ Nov 30 2015 09:10pm)

yeah prone was a topic myslef and cratic disagreed on. lilc was a sore spot for cratic aswell

Quote (Darc-Deth @ Nov 30 2015 07:10pm)

you used to deserve it ;)



i think lilc was a tough one for everyone

Quote (LuLer @ Nov 30 2015 09:12pm)

Tough how?

Seemed pretty clear.

Quote (Darc-Deth @ Nov 30 2015 09:03pm)

still waiting on an answer

i guess the list still means something to you

Quote (Darc-Deth @ Nov 30 2015 07:14pm)

thats why it was tough...

because it was a stupid shitty situation that could have and should have been avoided, and even those of us who voted to welch him don't really consider him a welcher, but rules are rules

Quote (zNick @ Nov 30 2015 09:15pm)

Well if some of these issues arent addressed, maybe not.
Transparency
Integrity
Fairness

Quote (LuLer @ Nov 30 2015 09:16pm)

Except it was a clear welch and those of you who don't consider him a welcher only do so because of personal/sentimental reasons.

Quote (Proint @ Nov 30 2015 09:53pm)

There is no use for WPB? Did you miss my post? In case you did here it is:



Why do a few people who fucked up ruin the chances for other people to somewhat clear their name?



You guys give absolutely no reason for why you are voting a certain way. BB mello's reasoning is that it's retarded. h4bs didn't give any reason at all. DD's reasoning is that in the past people fucked up so future people shouldn't be given the same chance. How does any of this make sense? The transition from welcher straight to unknown is too big of a leap. We have unknowns that should be active that have never welched. Suddenly they will be seen, by the list, as equal to people who welched in the past but cleaned up their act enough to get the welch tag removed. The wpb tag would act as a step between the two. How you could vote against wpb and be for allowing people to go from welcher to unknown makes no sense at all. If wpb welch again just put them back on the welcher list or better yet blacklist them.



As I said in my previous post, there is a huge difference between wpb and welcher. I'm pretty sure Prone payed back his welches/scams/whatever. JSP determined that he did and his tag in the NFL/NBA/MLB forums reflect that. Talk shit about those sections all you want. At least they got it right.

Lastly, I keep mentioning that the meds/trusteds were chosen by each other. If that's not true then let me know. The results of votes, who voted for what, and anything else like that need to be made public. We need transparency. This is based on pixel currency. We've got 9 people, who were chosen by each other, voting on stuff that affects the entire forum.

I have no issue with any of our trusteds or meds. I think we've got a very good group. However, when you guys vote on stuff and give no reason why you voted that way there is a problem. When you vote on stuff and your reasoning is bullshit, there is a problem.