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lol NaVi...
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lol NaVi...


yeah they got rekt
s1mple and jdm really made liquid a complete team that can compete

i wanted to bet on liquid but was too late :( they had like 20% odds n i felt like they would win lol
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I think what most of everyone is fishing to realize is that the first me see this week. The dude was clearly resisting arrest in the video. His rap sheet coupled with the fact he has an illegal gun. And he's struggling on the ground... How are the cops exactly to be blamed?
The cafeteria worker. Informs cops he has a legal gun and carry permit. And before the officer asks to see his credentials he tries to grab them from the console/pocket...cops are trained to use force in those scenarios. It's unfortunate someone dies but common.


Officers are not trained to shoot when someone reaches for their dash.

Officers are actually not trained to shoot unless their is a credible and immediate threat to them or a civilian. the shooting is not justified until the gun is in his hand pointed at some one.
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Officers are not trained to shoot when someone reaches for their dash.

Officers are actually not trained to shoot unless their is a credible and immediate threat to them or a civilian. the shooting is not justified until the gun is in his hand pointed at some one.


That's absolutely not true in the heat of the moment and most investigations uphold perceived threats as credible threats.

The cop fucked up in that case, but the guy who pulled the trigger in Louisiana after his partner screamed "GUN" was completely justified. The partner, on the other hand... you don't scream gun unless you think the guy is going for it.

If the guy already has the gun in his hand pointed at someone that person is dead if you shoot him.

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That's absolutely not true in the heat of the moment and most investigations uphold perceived threats as credible threats.


Not in canada, i have had a long conversation about this with an officer who is part of the training academy in toronto. Just after the Sammy Yatim incident.

And if US officers are trained to shoot when ever they thinkthere is a threat to them thats just fucked up...


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That's absolutely not true in the heat of the moment and most investigations uphold perceived threats as credible threats.

The cop fucked up in that case, but the guy who pulled the trigger in Louisiana after his partner screamed "GUN" was completely justified. The partner, on the other hand... you don't scream gun unless you think the guy is going for it.

If the guy already has the gun in his hand pointed at someone that person is dead if you shoot him.


you can't just kill someone before they even have a weapon in their hand because you think they might be going for a LEGAL weapon they already disclosed to you.

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Not in canada, i have had a long conversation about this with an officer who is part of the training academy in toronto. Just after the Sammy Yatim incident.

And if US officers are trained to shoot when ever they think there is a threat to them thats just fucked up...


And if canadian officers are trained not to shoot unless the other person has a gun in their hand and pointed at someone then that officer is responsible for the victim's death.

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And if canadian officers are trained not to shoot unless the other person has a gun in their hand and pointed at someone then that officer is responsible for the victim's death.


the test is a clear, present and credible threat.

someone grabbing their gun would probably qualify, but not someone reaching for their glove box after they have disclosed that they have a legal weapon and permit.

I'll agree that some of the situations have been sensationalized in a way that absolves the deceased of things they were guilty of. But some of these case ARE trigger happy cops, or scared cops not able to keep their subconscious prejudices away from their trigger fingers

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Not in canada, i have had a long conversation about this with an officer who is part of the training academy in toronto. Just after the Sammy Yatim incident.

And if US officers are trained to shoot when ever they thinkthere is a threat to them thats just fucked up...




you can't just kill someone before they even have a weapon in their hand because you think they might be going for a LEGAL weapon they already disclosed to you.


that trainer should be fired if he actually thinks that..

Forcillo would have got away with the shooting if he didn't shoot 8 times

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the test is a clear, present and credible threat.

someone grabbing their gun would probably qualify, but not someone reaching for their glove box after they have disclosed that they have a legal weapon and permit.


Which is why I sad above that the guy who shot while reaching for the glovebox wouldn't pass the test. Clear and present danger I completely agree with. A pointed gun is way too long to wait. I'd go after that police department for allowing someone to die if they were trained to wait til they saw the gun and waited until it was pointed.

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