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Nov 14 2018 12:00am
if nylander was a good ol' boy from Kingston Ontario whose childhood dream was wining the Stanley Cup wearing a Leafs jersey instead of a buttersoft Swede who probably cares more about his flow than doing his employers good this wouldn't be happening
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Nov 14 2018 12:47am
Quote (zNick @ Nov 13 2018 09:58pm)
i dont feel it's the case. It seems more like Nylader gave them a number from the get go and it is legit too much.




Like I said, i dont think its the case he gave them a number and I have a feeling he is nowhere near worth it... I mean he ain't no pastrnak anyways. but also consider this is Kyle Dubas' first major contract negotiation so playing his hand hard and calling a potential bluff should have been expected. Not a whole lot of time to punch out a contract/ trade... but Nylander sitting this season out and picking up right where he left off in negotiations is going to stigmatize both ends no matter how this lands.

At some point Nylander must consider this is his prime years for developing more skill, how many millions is sacrificing your abilities worth?


That Pastrnak deal is an absolute steal. That was the prime time hometown discount. No other team can expect to make that comparison because the getting will not be that good for them.

I think that was an ideal situation in which a player loved the city, and the 2 talented players on his line so he decided to take a cut.

I agree Nylander is not as good as Pastrnak. However he is an explosive youngster will all kinds of offensive talent. Think of how many teams are coveting having him on there team. His best could be yet to come and he fits in with the Leafs high tempo offense.

I think the Leafs will have to overpay on him and ship him off because they will be in a cap crunch. Either that or make some other moves to keep him. They will have over 30 mil tied to 3 players soon, and close to 40 if they keep Nylander. Hard to see that happening.

Personally I think the Draisatl contract (which would be favorable to use within the Nylander camp) is a bit of an overpay. Personally I think Draisatl is better than Nylander because he is a center and has more physicality/ability to protect the puck and go in the corners. That is the style you need for playoff hockey.

I am sure Nylander is reaching, a bit at least, but the idea of a talented youngster becoming available is quite rare so the outside interest forces teams to overpay. Much like the Draisatl situation. Imagine how many teams wanted to make a push to get him.

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Nov 14 2018 12:54am
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nylander is not worth 8 fucking million lmao


I agree 100%. Still think he is going to get close to it though when all is settled.

I like to see someone have the hustle to get every dime they possibly can so maybe I am a bit biased on the matter.

That being said I think he has a lot more leverage than some want to believe.
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Nov 14 2018 01:02am
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if nylander was a good ol' boy from Kingston Ontario whose childhood dream was wining the Stanley Cup wearing a Leafs jersey instead of a buttersoft Swede who probably cares more about his flow than doing his employers good this wouldn't be happening


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Nov 14 2018 01:08am
Not everyone is as convinced as you are of Nylanders potential. There are some question marks and facts...

Not even sure hes worth more than 6mill
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Nov 14 2018 01:12am
From what I've understood it is nylanders old man and agent whos calling the shots for his career. They put him in this situation and now he doesnt know how to get out of it

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Nov 14 2018 07:12am
Quote (Killingyouall @ Nov 14 2018 12:47am)
That Pastrnak deal is an absolute steal. That was the prime time hometown discount. No other team can expect to make that comparison because the getting will not be that good for them.

I think that was an ideal situation in which a player loved the city, and the 2 talented players on his line so he decided to take a cut.

I agree Nylander is not as good as Pastrnak. However he is an explosive youngster will all kinds of offensive talent. Think of how many teams are coveting having him on there team. His best could be yet to come and he fits in with the Leafs high tempo offense.

I think the Leafs will have to overpay on him and ship him off because they will be in a cap crunch. Either that or make some other moves to keep him. They will have over 30 mil tied to 3 players soon, and close to 40 if they keep Nylander. Hard to see that happening.

Personally I think the Draisatl contract (which would be favorable to use within the Nylander camp) is a bit of an overpay. Personally I think Draisatl is better than Nylander because he is a center and has more physicality/ability to protect the puck and go in the corners. That is the style you need for playoff hockey.

I am sure Nylander is reaching, a bit at least, but the idea of a talented youngster becoming available is quite rare so the outside interest forces teams to overpay. Much like the Draisatl situation. Imagine how many teams wanted to make a push to get him.



Don’t forget Pasternak's deal is closer to 7.5 when you take the 2 years early ufa into account. Math was always pretty clear , leafs could keep 2/3 of their kids. Sign Tavares and .....
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Nov 14 2018 12:27pm
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Don’t forget Pasternak's deal is closer to 7.5 when you take the 2 years early ufa into account. Math was always pretty clear , leafs could keep 2/3 of their kids. Sign Tavares and .....


Matthews/ Marner.
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Nov 14 2018 01:01pm
Quote (zNick @ Nov 14 2018 12:27pm)
Matthews/ Marner.



keeping 2/3 was before taveres.
ofc you can still move money out before next year ( marleau / kadri / idk your roster well enough )
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Nov 14 2018 06:33pm
Quote (remco6 @ Nov 14 2018 06:12am)
Don’t forget Pasternak's deal is closer to 7.5 when you take the 2 years early ufa into account. Math was always pretty clear , leafs could keep 2/3 of their kids. Sign Tavares and .....


This is something I did not put into consideration. Good point.
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