Tomorrow

https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1237924457454411776

That's the encouraging part so far, but being that its our first child, obviously we will overdo it and take extra precaution.

so there is an announcement tonight about the nhl season
will they report the rest of the season? cancel the rest and go with the rankings for the draft or keep playing in empty arenas

This post was edited by Nihility on Mar 11 2020 08:23pm

my destination wedding is in 2 weeks

sorry, was in 2 weeks.. likely cancelled fuck this virus bullshit...

I agree. And that is what will be used as political posturing.

Nations will rally and attempt to punish China for it's mishandling of an outbreak and as a result you will see further economic instability, hatred/finger pointing and an erosion of civil rights in the process.

Not a good look. The fallout is what will cause the most problems; not the virus itself.

Economically I do worry a bit. I have been fortunate to have never been laid off before.. That could soon change.

Furthermore the majority of people have retirement funds that have so far took a large hit from all of this and will likely have to work for longer before they can retire in peace.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Mar 11 2020 08:35pm

There's a real problem with even playing to empty arenas, because some of the staff doing NBA/NHL games in shared venues might have contracted the virus and don't even know it yet.
There's just no way this can happen now that it's spread to the venues, players, staff etc.

Pretty much this. They showed 3 diff nhl teams playing in the Utah Jazz arena in the last 10 days. It’s a 14-21 day incubation. More than likely someone on an nhl team has it and we won’t know for another week or so

The r0 factor about covid-19 is what is scary.

seasonal flu is r0 1.3, covid19 is r0 2 to 4. (the number gets higher = worse, the less effective healthcare is, so in canada its on the low side, in nigeria or saudi arabia it would be on the high side where people are primitive and uneducated and still gather to pray etc).
Thats how many people get infected for every declared case, on average.
This means covid is MUCH easier to catch. Its more infectious by more than double on average than the seasonal flu.
(which is amazing because we all have immunity to some degree to hundreds of strains of seasonal flu already and it still gets us sometimes).

Incubation period.. how long are you infectious before you get sick and figure out to stay home? With seasonal flu its 3 to 4 days. Thats not bad....
with covid19 its 14 to 21 days, thats VERY VERY BAD and results in a lot more surfaces infected and people contact before you know whats up.
So after healthcare gets overwhelmed, youre all fucked.

fatality rates.

Big one here.
SARS and h1N1 died out because they killed 15%-35% of people they infected, and also were not that easy to catch and people got sick FAST.. low incubation.

seasonal flu kills 0.1% overall.
covid19 kills about 2 to 3% overall. (20x to 30x the fatality rate). If youre 75 years old you have a 20% chance of dying. thats 1 in 5 elderly people.

THat is not a high enough fatality rate to have the disease "burn out" fast, and combined with long incubation periods and high r0 number you are looking at a disease that can hide for a long time, spread far and wide, come back after youve cleaned it out, and kills enough people to be terrible.

Seasonal flu in the WORST years kills 65,000 people in the USA in a year. Thats nothing, compared to 350million population.
Covid19 can infect 40 to 70% of the overall population.
Say 50% ends up sick.
THats 3.5Million dead in the united states alone.
Using 2% fatality rate overall.
That assumes healthcare is suddenly great in america and the system doesnt collapse.

Now, I guarantee you, america will turn into the wild west again long before 3 million people die, and the entire economy would be shot to hell.

Thats not alarmist thats using the minimum numbers.

SO we need to smarten the everloving fuck up. Wash your hands. Respect the efforts..and encourage governments to do MORE.

gonna be fun to see a ghost town soon with you just going out in the street and seeing people looking by their windows in terror.

i guess we have come to this, the joy of developing in virus in laboratory and then they by "accident" spread out such as the sras, ebola and h1n1 and now apparently this new virus also

This post was edited by Nihility on Mar 11 2020 08:58pm