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Quote (VAS3CT0MY @ 21 Jul 2021 21:17)
Bean would be a good trade target for yzerman. I was wanting holland to trade for him a few years back when it became clear there was no room for him in carolina


I'm surprised kraken didn't get free assets. Like before the the freeze, kraken inquired about Holtby and wanted the Canucks to retain if they wanted them to pick him. Benning didn't want to, because there was enough interest from other teams around the league to trade him. Which means he might have a deal which doesn't require more retaining than Seattle wanted or none at all.

Seattle could've made a side deal, and got Holtby to trade with the other teams too lol instead they took Lind, who could be picked up by 31 other teams through waivers. Unless they plan on using him in their roster now that we see what steaming pile of trash upfront looks like haha
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i think they just dun fucked up, picking no name randos over decent players with decent contract etc.
how in the fuckkk did they skip over jake bean, he could've been their theodore!!! lol

their price was just way too high for GM's to pay for them to NOT take the player they want. Brad said Kraken's price for them to keep Gio was way too much lol. What i don't get is, they still drafted questionable players without any side deals. Why would they not wanna compete with Vegas rn?? the division is extremely weak, would've poured in a ton of money if it was basically Vegas and Kraken competing against each other the next few years. Instead... they're gonna go with rebuilding route. Their backend is no doubt solid, but they got 3 goalies with limited NHL experience and trash top 12 with Hakstol lul


yeah idk seem an odd route to go for sure
and like i thought for sure they take jvr yeah he makes 7m but even in a bad year hes worth 4-5m thats not that much of an overpay and only 2 seasons
easily a top 6 for them but they take a 4th liner with potential to be a 3rd liner instead when they have dime a dozen of those
how do u not take domi?

like sure they arent the best contracts but they got the cap space and they are pretty good players if you want to compete right away they passed over lots of guys that could help them do that

but personally im glad they didnt take jvr cause he was our best player and hes one of the only goal scorers on philly woulda sucked to lose him

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"Teams weren't willing to make the mistakes they made last time." - Kraken GM Ron Francis on not being able to leverage the draft rules as Vegas did

LOL

then why not pick some actual players? Wtf....?

Or stop trying to rip them off....?

Vegas was successful cuz they made sure no one else could trade among each other, Ron didn't do that shit so of course teams don't feel pressured or squeezed to make a move :rofl:

Anyway, idk how he managed to draft a team with gourde being ur best player and mccaan being arguably the 2nd best up front. Inb4 they turn into mega 100pt superstars

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Quote (Secksii @ Jul 22 2021 09:01am)
"Teams weren't willing to make the mistakes they made last time." - Kraken GM Ron Francis on not being able to leverage the draft rules as Vegas did

LOL

then why not pick some actual players? Wtf....?

Or stop trying to rip them off....?

Vegas was successful cuz they made sure no one else could trade among each other, Ron didn't do that shit so of course teams don't feel pressured or squeezed to make a move :rofl:

Anyway, idk how he managed to draft a team with gourde being ur best player and mccaan being arguably the 2nd best up front. Inb4 they turn into mega 100pt superstars



Things have changed , flat cap means most teams have that one albatross contract they exposed. Ron didn’t bite on any of those.
That being said there was some young talent he left on the table imo.

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boy seattle line up is awful wat da puck
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Things have changed , flat cap means most teams have that one albatross contract they exposed. Ron didn’t bite on any of those.
That being said there was some young talent he left on the table imo.


Yeah but they didn't utilize their cap power at all. For example Jvr for 7mil for 2 yrs isn't a albatross contract. I mean, even if they didn't want him, they could retain and easily flip for some draft picks.

Kraken didn't draft any players like Jvr, but at the same time they didn't stock pile on draft picks either.



They don't have pitlick anymore, replace with a rando

Kraken plays in a weak conference, their defense is beyond solid. Goaltending is high risk/high reward. It will be up to the front group to over perform to make them like Vegas imo.

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Seattle goaltending interests me the most.

Both Driedger and Vanecek will have a chance to emerge as a true number one goalie.

Would not be surprised if one of them really shines.


One thing you have to consider is this team is essentially a group of rejects.

They are all on the team for the same reason. Immediately that gives them a real fuck you for doubting me mentally.

They could turn out to be a scrappy team that bands together and outworks other teams to win some games. The team of course does not look great on paper but a lot of players from deep teams are going to get a chance to show what they can do.

I think if they are well coached with a good structure they could be competitive despite the lack of overall talent and experience.

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Yeah but they didn't utilize their cap power at all. For example Jvr for 7mil for 2 yrs isn't a albatross contract. I mean, even if they didn't want him, they could retain and easily flip for some draft picks.

Kraken didn't draft any players like Jvr, but at the same time they didn't stock pile on draft picks either.

https://i.imgur.com/5vmNiXw.jpg

They don't have pitlick anymore, replace with a rando

Kraken plays in a weak conference, their defense is beyond solid. Goaltending is high risk/high reward. It will be up to the front group to over perform to make them like Vegas imo.



Either it is just a missed opportunity or a long term strategy. With a new organization it is tough to tell how competent management is.


With all the cap they could take other teams terrible contracts for picks/prospects. You know there is a lot of teams that want to dump bad contracts but the asking price was probably too steep. With Seattle maybe the price becomes attractive enough to make some sacrafices.

Furthermore at the deadline they could get themselves involved in three way trades when a team wants to trade for a rental at the deadline but does not have the cap space to do so.

With so many bad contracts floating around and not many teams willing to take the cap hit or spend the actual dollar they could position themselves to stockpile. Detroit has done quite well with that.

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