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Oct 13 2023 12:52pm
Quote (partank @ 13 Oct 2023 10:40)
looks like its basically doubling down until you win, then reset. ie. $10, then $20, $40, $80, etc etc on black until you win, then reset at $10. except for 50/50ish on winning, youre about 33%

interesting though. i dont think theres any diff of picking random numbers vs a dozen square, no?


Yeah double down is martengale.

Betting on red or black isn't 35x tho
That's why you choose 10 numbers. Picking 10 random numbers from board VS picking 10 from a dozen square doesn't really matter
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Quote (Secksii @ Oct 13 2023 02:52pm)
Yeah double down is martengale.

Betting on red or black isn't 35x tho
That's why you choose 10 numbers. Picking 10 random numbers from board VS picking 10 from a dozen square doesn't really matter


No it isn’t, but yours isn’t really 35x either, more 33ish%. You’re risking $10 to win $36. Black is a bit under 50% but yea, $10 to win $20

I’ve done that before and lost lol. Gave up on it, you must have decent luck lol

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Quote (partank @ 13 Oct 2023 12:31)
No it isn’t, but yours isn’t really 35x either, more 33ish%. You’re risking $10 to win $36. Black is a bit under 50% but yea, $10 to win $20

I’ve done that before and lost lol. Gave up on it, you must have decent luck lol


it's 33% to win, but the pay out is 35x for such low bet.
I'm risking $10, to win 36. If you hit, you basically win back 3 bullets and $6 profit.

Black or Red is near 50%, but the payout is just what you bet. So you're risking $10, to win another 10. (1 bullet and 0 profit)
if you hit, you basically win a bullet. the casinos have slightly more odds winning black or red, cuz of the 2 greens as well.

For a better visual example,

let's say im on a 4 loss streak, so i am down $50. (10,10,10,20,) but win on my 5th bet. 2x35 = $70. I made $20 bucks despite the previous losses. If i go with 5 loss, i break even. If i go with 6th loss, and win 7th (down 90, but win 140, $50 profit). That's 5 extra bullets back to me.

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playing black or red. You bet $10, and martengale each time you lose.
you bet $10 to start, and say you lose 2x in a row rather than 4 (just to off set 33% vs ~49%). You're down $30. Now the next bet, you gotta put in $40. if that hits, you win back $40. (you're only up $10 now, but you wagered much higher.) If you lose, you're already sweating, and risking $80 on top of your previous losses, which is 70. You're already betting $150 out of your own pocket. That's a big no no. If you're playing with a low 200-300 buyout, you're basically giving money away to the casino.
martengale every 3 losses won't work with this strategy because you'd be in a deeper hole and the profit you get back when you win won't offset it.

You can try this on a simulator to compare the methods, set ur budget to $200 and you'll see that you get very limited spins and will be playing to win back what you loss going black or red. Black or red will be like a thing you'd do if you're only going for 1-2 spins and call it a night.

This post was edited by Secksii on Oct 13 2023 02:05pm
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Quote (Secksii @ 13 Oct 2023 13:01)
it's 33% to win, but the pay out is 35x for such low bet.
I'm risking $10, to win 36. If you hit, you basically win back 3 bullets and $6 profit.

Black or Red is near 50%, but the payout is just what you bet. So you're risking $10, to win another 10. (1 bullet and 0 profit)
if you hit, you basically win a bullet. the casinos have slightly more odds winning black or red, cuz of the 2 greens as well.

For a better visual example,

let's say im on a 4 loss streak, so i am down $50. (10,10,10,20,) but win on my 5th bet. 2x35 = $70. I made $20 bucks despite the previous losses. If i go with 5 loss, i break even. If i go with 6th loss, and win 7th (down 90, but win 140, $50 profit). That's 5 extra bullets back to me.

VS

playing black or red. You bet $10, and martengale each time you lose.
you bet $10 to start, and say you lose 2x in a row rather than 4 (just to off set 33% vs ~49%). You're down $30. Now the next bet, you gotta put in $40. if that hits, you win back $40. (you're only up $10 now, but you wagered much higher.) If you lose, you're already sweating, and risking $80 on top of your previous losses, which is 70. You're already betting $150 out of your own pocket. That's a big no no. If you're playing with a low 200-300 buyout, you're basically giving money away to the casino.
martengale every 3 losses won't work with this strategy because you'd be in a deeper hole and the profit you get back when you win won't offset it.

You can try this on a simulator to compare the methods, set ur budget to $200 and you'll see that you get very limited spins and will be playing to win back what you loss going black or red. Black or red will be like a thing you'd do if you're only going for 1-2 spins and call it a night.

that's why a lot of methods have a step system that start with the bottom, black/red then you advance to betting the 1st 12/2nd 12/3rd 12 then into the inside bets. Rather than just outside 50/50 straight up martengale.
https://www.jackace.com/gambling/roulette/systems/2022-09-12-Ride-or-Die/
this is a fun system, $5 to begin with and potential to win $$$. although the last step, instead of going all in on 1 number, split the bet into 7 numbers of $5 bets, so you win $175. If you get to that last step, you win $170 profit. Not as good as 1225$ but odds of winning to bet 7 vs 1 is muchhh higher.

This post was edited by Secksii on Oct 13 2023 02:12pm
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Quote (Secksii @ Oct 13 2023 04:01pm)
it's 33% to win, but the pay out is 35x for such low bet.
I'm risking $10, to win 36. If you hit, you basically win back 3 bullets and $6 profit.

Black or Red is near 50%, but the payout is just what you bet. So you're risking $10, to win another 10. (1 bullet and 0 profit)
if you hit, you basically win a bullet. the casinos have slightly more odds winning black or red, cuz of the 2 greens as well.

For a better visual example,

let's say im on a 4 loss streak, so i am down $50. (10,10,10,20,) but win on my 5th bet. 2x35 = $70. I made $20 bucks despite the previous losses. If i go with 5 loss, i break even. If i go with 6th loss, and win 7th (down 90, but win 140, $50 profit). That's 5 extra bullets back to me.

VS

playing black or red. You bet $10, and martengale each time you lose.
you bet $10 to start, and say you lose 2x in a row rather than 4 (just to off set 33% vs ~49%). You're down $30. Now the next bet, you gotta put in $40. if that hits, you win back $40. (you're only up $10 now, but you wagered much higher.) If you lose, you're already sweating, and risking $80 on top of your previous losses, which is 70. You're already betting $150 out of your own pocket. That's a big no no. If you're playing with a low 200-300 buyout, you're basically giving money away to the casino.
martengale every 3 losses won't work with this strategy because you'd be in a deeper hole and the profit you get back when you win won't offset it.

You can try this on a simulator to compare the methods, set ur budget to $200 and you'll see that you get very limited spins and will be playing to win back what you loss going black or red. Black or red will be like a thing you'd do if you're only going for 1-2 spins and call it a night.


i think were saying the same thing lol. yes i know pay out is 35x, but you risk $10 to get paid $36, not $10x35+10

although casino obv has the favour with numbers on the board as well, given there is 39 outcomes (i asssume yours has the 0, 00 and the other bullshit one at the top) and the win paid out 35x at 25-26%?. with that, you winning on your 5th roll is roughly the same than red/black hitting twice over 10 rolls, no?

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Oct 13 2023 02:35pm
Quote (partank @ 13 Oct 2023 13:20)
i think were saying the same thing lol. yes i know pay out is 35x, but you risk $10 to get paid $36, not $10x35+10

although casino obv has the favour with numbers on the board as well, given there is 39 outcomes (i asssume yours has the 0, 00 and the other bullshit one at the top) and the win paid out 35x at 25-26%?. with that, you winning on your 5th roll is roughly the same than red/black hitting twice over 10 rolls, no?


yeah but the biggest difference is the amount of the bet you're putting in and the win you're getting back.

with about 200-300 buyin you can pretty much play the dirty bird system til you get bad luck'd and lose 8x in a row, or you win 100-200+. Should be about 1-2hrs of playing, around 50+ spins.

hitting black or red over 10 rolls depend how much you're willing to bet. So if you only have $200 to gamble, that's 20$ per spin. You're basically praying you win like 5+ in a row to earn $100 and make it worth it. Otherwise, win or lose, you're betting to make the money back from your previous losses rather than playing to win $.
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Oct 15 2023 03:12pm
Winter tires vs all weather tires

Studded vs non studded.

Got a new suv and this winter I was thinking of putting some winter tires on it. I want studded. I've never had purely winter tires let alone studded ones. What's everyone's thoughts?
And what brands?

Currently looking at:
Continental icecontact xtrm studded - 392$ per tire
Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 - 383$ per tire

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Quote (Subzer0isGG @ 15 Oct 2023 14:12)
Winter tires vs all weather tires

Studded vs non studded.

Got a new suv and this winter I was thinking of putting some winter tires on it. I want studded. I've never had purely winter tires let alone studded ones. What's everyone's thoughts?
And what brands?

Currently looking at:
Continental icecontact xtrm studded - 392$ per tire
Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 - 383$ per tire


Michelin is my go to brand, check out Canadian tire I think they got some sale going on til tmr

My buddy uses continental all weather and likes it, but Vancouver weather is lol compared to edm

This post was edited by Secksii on Oct 15 2023 04:15pm
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Oct 15 2023 05:46pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Oct 15 2023 03:12pm)
Winter tires vs all weather tires

Studded vs non studded.

Got a new suv and this winter I was thinking of putting some winter tires on it. I want studded. I've never had purely winter tires let alone studded ones. What's everyone's thoughts?
And what brands?

Currently looking at:
Continental icecontact xtrm studded - 392$ per tire
Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 - 383$ per tire


My buddy works at Kal tire, I wanted studded to. He said they aren’t worth it, shelf life is less, you wear out the studs on dry pavement so fast.

He wouldn’t even sell me them lol. But that’s just my story, figured I’d share it.
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Quote (Tear @ Oct 15 2023 07:46pm)
My buddy works at Kal tire, I wanted studded to. He said they aren’t worth it, shelf life is less, you wear out the studs on dry pavement so fast.

He wouldn’t even sell me them lol. But that’s just my story, figured I’d share it.


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