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Mar 27 2015 09:26pm
Too many big words for my french brain to understand
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Mar 27 2015 09:27pm
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And the Apple and Haliburton mega companies of the world's impacts are not predominantly profit-based?


No clue where you're getting it from that I'm saying that. They are, and they've done more for most charities than any non-profit, and more effectively. Because their workers get paid if and only if they get results, and positive publicity from charities makes the company money. They have better motivation.

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Mar 27 2015 09:37pm
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No clue where you're getting it from that I'm saying that. They are, and they've done more for most charities than any non-profit, and more effectively. Because their workers get paid if and only if they get results, and positive publicity from charities makes the company money. They have better motivation.


Motivation to make dat cash. For their pockets. For their companies. Giving back is a by-product, and one often done to make the company look good. When you say "they've done more for most charities than any non-profit" that's about capacity not motivation. That makes sense, as no charity out there will ever be as big as Apple. For-profit's primary motivation is not to make the world a better place. Its sad but true. Their charitable initiatives are great, but, to bring it back to the beginning, 'motivation' cannot be greater than those organizations who exist entirely for their pet missions, which are by definition not monetary.

Just sticking up for charities yo.
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Mar 27 2015 09:46pm
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Motivation to make dat cash. For their pockets. For their companies. Giving back is a by-product, and one often done to make the company look good. When you say "they've done more for most charities than any non-profit" that's about capacity not motivation. That makes sense, as no charity out there will ever be as big as Apple. For-profit's primary motivation is not to make the world a better place. Its sad but true. Their charitable initiatives are great, but, to bring it back to the beginning, 'motivation' cannot be greater than those organizations who exist entirely for their pet missions, which are by definition not monetary.

Just sticking up for charities yo.


I don't see how it matters WHY they want to make the impact. Fact of the matter is money is a bigger motivator than happy thoughts. If you want to split ends over that, I'd then argue that for most charities the people at the top are the ones who really care about the cause and internalize it. In for-profits, every single person internalizes it because money.

I'd love to live in a world where butterflies and rainbows run the world but when it comes down to it, put money down and you'll get more done with the same "capacity."

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Mar 27 2015 10:20pm
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Mar 27 2015 10:36pm
anybody use these android tv box things?
i was pretty skeptical but went to my freinds house today and hes been programming and selling them :loL:
let me use one to try ... im fairly impressed tbh
if you dunno what it is its basically a tiny pc androidsd box thing that makes any tv a smart tv and you put apps on it and can stream movies tv series live sports ect ect with your internet
its like... internet tv you can pay for internet and cut the cable/satelite bill out and still watch shit there way better then an antenna and cost about as much but there useless without internet

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Mar 27 2015 10:39pm
Profit-based companies generate more revenue and some of that goes towards helping the community, generally more than a non-profit which can barely stay a float and doesn't provide as many services as it could because it's not profit-based.
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Mar 27 2015 11:29pm
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I don't see how it matters WHY they want to make the impact. Fact of the matter is money is a bigger motivator than happy thoughts. If you want to split ends over that, I'd then argue that for most charities the people at the top are the ones who really care about the cause and internalize it. In for-profits, every single person internalizes it because money.

I'd love to live in a world where butterflies and rainbows run the world but when it comes down to it, put money down and you'll get more done with the same "capacity."


You seem convinced that employees in the for-profit world are rewarded monetarily by their bosses for trying to make the world a better place? That's... not a thing. You have huge faith in companies doing the right thing just because it's the right thing to do, and I'm saying the exact opposite. It's your butterfly and rainbow world not mine :rolleyes:

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Mar 27 2015 11:44pm
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Profit-based companies generate more revenue and some of that goes towards helping the community, generally more than a non-profit which can barely stay a float and doesn't provide as many services as it could because it's not profit-based.


do you have any actual source for your claims?
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Mar 27 2015 11:50pm
guys shuddap about that government profit non profit company shit this is the general chat thread not the politics and other non sense thread
android tv...thoughts? questions?

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