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Mar 20 2015 05:32pm
Quote (Cruzader @ Mar 20 2015 06:52pm)
slack-jawed liberals appealing to emotion, rather than facts. truly shocking

why don't they open up a dealership featuring cars involved in deadly accidents. yeah, think twice before you run over that 8-year old running after his ball - walk 2 hours to work instead



LOL A+
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Mar 20 2015 05:33pm
Quote (dej @ Mar 20 2015 04:19pm)
that says more about the country and how alienated they are, making it even worse than if it was "whites"


exactly, there's a problem with blacks and hispanics being marginalized in the US. but the raw murder numbers are co-opted by the "guns are scary" lobby and make it seem like the problem is in gun access, which makes no sense when you see the differences across races in violence. the differences also exist in multiracial countries like brazil, colombia and south africa where guns are either heavily restricted or banned. it doesn't deter criminality at all. E: and it steers away from the discourse that should be had, which is how to better include marginalized minorities and assess how can policymakers can improve their condition.

also, the guardian ran an article saying that 114 children in the US were killed in gun accidents in 2014. meanwhile, the rate of death by accidental poisoning amongst children is 0.4 per 100,000, which adds up to 1,200 deaths per year. my point is that the whole "think of the children" rhetoric that american liberals focus on as an argument to ban guns is ridiculous when other common objects children have access to cause far more mortality. there will be idiots who put bleach or oxycontin in children's reach, and there will be idiots who will put guns in children's reach. but the general population shouldn't be punished for the idiocy of a statistically insignificant minority.

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Mar 20 2015 05:38pm
Quote (Galchenyuk @ Mar 20 2015 07:06pm)
You guys are fucking hilarious :rofl:

Ill just leave this here

http://www.humanosphere.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/GunViolence-620x445.png

Have a nice evening.


Would be interested to see that chart for other forms of assault. If I have the choice between a gun and a knife to kill someone, I'mma pick the one that doesn't require me to come in close quarters.
Personally I have no issue with guns. They can be fun and useful if used properly. I have an issue with the dipshits who use them and think there should at least be a psych eval and some required courses rather than just a 3 day waiting period and background check. Which would of course result in much fewer guns per capita.

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Quote (Cruzader @ 21 Mar 2015 01:33)
exactly, there's a problem with blacks and hispanics being marginalized in the US. but the raw murder numbers are co-opted by the "guns are scary" lobby and make it seem like the problem is in gun access, which makes no sense when you see the differences across races in violence. the differences also exist in multiracial countries like brazil, colombia and south africa where guns are either heavily restricted or banned. it doesn't deter criminality at all. E: and it steers away from the discourse that should be had, which is how to better include marginalized minorities and assess how can policymakers can improve their condition.

also, the guardian ran an article saying that 114 children in the US were killed in gun accidents in 2014. meanwhile, the rate of death by accidental poisoning amongst children is 0.4 per 100,000, which adds up to 1,200 deaths per year. my point is that the whole "think of the children" rhetoric that american liberals focus on as an argument to ban guns is ridiculous when other common objects children have access to cause far more mortality. there will be idiots who put bleach or oxycontin in children's reach, and there will be idiots who will put guns in children's reach. but the general population shouldn't be punished for the idiocy of a statistically insignificant minority.


the general population would not be punished. you don't see it's only better for people to have less guns? after that focus on the other problems

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Would be interested to see that chart for other forms of assault. If I have the choice between a gun and a knife to kill someone, I'mma pick the one that doesn't require me to come in close quarters.
Personally I have no issue with guns. They can be fun and useful if used properly. I have an issue with the dipshits who use them and think there should at least be a psych eval and some required courses rather than just a 3 day waiting period and background check. Which would of course result in much fewer guns per capita.


only for hunting and police. you can't be without guns for the greater good just because it's fun?

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the general population would not be punished. you don't see it's only better for people to have less guns? after that focus on the other problems



its better for people to have less guns no doubt but mostly if the "less people" were the retards in the stories of that video and similar situations
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Mar 20 2015 05:50pm
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Mar 20 2015 05:57pm
Anyway it's a small problem in the big picture. We are so stupid we need armies and it's not because the majority of people but because of a small group of even more stupid people and we do what they want
What the hell there are too many humans anyway and we are doomed at some point in the near future. :rofl:

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Mar 20 2015 05:59pm
Quote (Rzi @ Mar 21 2015 12:57am)
Anyway it's a small problem in the big picture. We are so stupid we need armies and it's not because the majority of people but because of a small group of even more stupid people and we do what they want
What the hell there are too many humans anyway and we are doomed at some point in the near future. :rofl:


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false


of course false
when the earth goes to shit were going to go live in the arc til we can send down the 100

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