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Nov 30 2016 04:01pm
you go ahead figure out how to eliminate petroleum, you'll be the richest man in the world
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Nov 30 2016 04:02pm
That's just it. The technology isn't there.



Yet. 100years.

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Quote (Nearin @ Nov 30 2016 02:01pm)
Socratic ignorance



Id love to see a complete study on solar vs oil or wind vs oil etc etc.

I would tend to lean on the side that overall impact of solar/wind has to be lower. but i'll admit that i dont know shit lol


wind power has all but been abandoned, at least here in california.

im not arguing that oil is better, believe me. but what i am saying is stored electric/solar is not all everyone thinks it is
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Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Nov 30 2016 06:02pm)
That's just it. The technology isn't there.



Yet. 100years.


this

I hate agreeing with sub, but even once the tech is there it will take along time to integrate and standardize it.

at this point i think Canada needs to find ways to make our oil as profitable as possible and invest in research on getting that tech here sooner.

My major concern re: oil sands is foreign ownership :(
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Quote (KoJ @ Nov 30 2016 02:04pm)
wind power has all but been abandoned, at least here in california.

im not arguing that oil is better, believe me. but what i am saying is stored electric/solar is not all everyone thinks it is



Lel, it absolutely is incredible though, especially compared to what we've got now. And it's not some futuristic technology either, launched yesterday:

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2016/11/india-unveils-world-largest-solar-power-plant-161129101022044.html?client=safari

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Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Nov 30 2016 06:02pm)
That's just it. The technology isn't there.


technology for what? theres multiple better resources then oil oil is just the most profitable which allwoed the oil companies to purchase those other resources
and with all the big oil companies owning the rights to the good energy sources they simply wont allow them to be until oil is dry


thats honestly the main issue right now its not the lack of technology or better ways its the rich people making sure they continue to get richer

Quote (Pens @ Nov 30 2016 06:07pm)
wind power is decent but can cause changes in climate (such as weather patterns, front movement etc)


windmills are terrible they are so ugly wqe got like 1000 put up in my region last few years .... supposed to make hydro cheaper right?
yeah... no our bills have like doubled its insane what ontario is paying for power right now imo is this is what windmills do its not the answer lol

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Quote (Nearin @ 30 Nov 2016 18:01)
Socratic ignorance



Id love to see a complete study on solar vs oil or wind vs oil etc etc.

I would tend to lean on the side that overall impact of solar/wind has to be lower. but i'll admit that i dont know shit lol


wind power is decent but can cause changes in climate (such as weather patterns, front movement etc)

Quote (KoJ @ 30 Nov 2016 18:04)
wind power has all but been abandoned, at least here in california.

im not arguing that oil is better, believe me. but what i am saying is stored electric/solar is not all everyone thinks it is


to be fair to your argument, when it comes to powerplants.. no matter what causes the turbines to move (be it solar/wind/hydro/nuclear/natural gas/oil), the energy is still stored the same way.

Also batteries for solar power and becoming much better quickly as more people are tending to it.

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ya they have stopped building them here that i know of, but we have a few already up.


Tidal? there are lots of options out there, and i am not educated on the topic at all to say which avenue should be pursued . my point is only that we shouldnt throw up our hands and decide to stick with oil.
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Quote (dragoneth @ Nov 30 2016 06:06pm)
technology for what? theres multiple better resources then oil oil is just the most profitable which allwoed the oil companies to purchase those other resources
and with all the big oil companies owning the rights to the good energy sources they simply wont allow them to be until oil is dry


thats honestly the main issue right now its not the lack of technology or better ways its the rich people making sure they continue to get richer



windmills are terrible they are so ugly wqe got like 1000 put up in my region last few years .... supposed to make hydro cheaper right?
yeah... no our bills have like doubled its insane what ontario is paying for power right now imo is this is what windmills do its not the answer lol


The spikes in ontario hydro costs are related to subsidies being cut. Not actual cost of power. at least as far as i am aware
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Nov 30 2016 04:23pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Nov 30 2016 04:06pm)
technology for what? theres multiple better resources then oil oil is just the most profitable which allwoed the oil companies to purchase those other resources
and with all the big oil companies owning the rights to the good energy sources they simply wont allow them to be until oil is dry


thats honestly the main issue right now its not the lack of technology or better ways its the rich people making sure they continue to get richer


Serious drago? smh
You are sooo lost, its not even funny

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