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maybe to you it does. i think if your not doing anything wrong then you shouldn't either. i guess everyone is different because i don't get anxious or fear police.

even if identifying yourself as a PO did instill fear and anxiety, why in the world would you do it unnecessarily when your main goal is to protect the peoples well being in their service?


"Hard to gain trust, easy to lose it."
Dicking around with wining and dining every citizen you go to is a waste of time. Get the information, THEN go fluffy bunny mode and let them know you appreciate the help.

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"Hard to gain trust, easy to lose it."
Dicking around with wining and dining every citizen you go to is a waste of time.



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Just saying, would you rather they be super awesome nice best friends with you or would you rather they go the route that's proven to be more effective to protect you?
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Mar 12 2015 02:33pm
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"Hard to gain trust, easy to lose it."
Dicking around with wining and dining every citizen you go to is a waste of time. Get the information, THEN go fluffy bunny mode and let them know you appreciate the help.


so instill fear and anxiety in someone in hopes that they will respond positively towards that aggressiveness, all in an effort to find a certain building?

that must be one important building to cause me to act against the role in society that ive been given and put all my efforts toward day in and day out (protecting and serving the well being of the people).
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so instill fear and anxiety in someone in hopes that they will respond positively towards that aggressiveness, all in an effort to find a certain building?

that must be one important building to cause me to act against the role in society that ive been given and put all my efforts toward day in and day out (protecting and serving the well being of the people).


Eh, I don't think vanished was talking about caedus' story in particular. Shit sounds made up. I think he just saw "why would you flash your badge to ask a question"

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Just saying, would you rather they be super awesome nice best friends with you or would you rather they go the route that's proven to be more effective to protect you?



So tempted to yell 'false dichotomy' and leave it at that :ph34r:

Those aren't mutually exclusive, and probably the answer is right down the middle. Cops should, and do, play it by ear. If they're breaking up a fight they're not going to be your best friend. If they're needing your help or just having a conversation, they should not be bullies. We've all dealt with asshole cops who think they run the world. They're horrible, and sometimes dangerous. The uniform, and gun, already lets you know they're the authority. Acting like a grade school bully makes for a shitty cop.
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Just saying, would you rather they be super awesome nice best friends with you or would you rather they go the route that's proven to be more effective to protect you?


oh, acting in a way that instills fear and anxiety in people makes the people cooperate with you more than in a way that could suggest that you actually care about these people being protected and feeling safe?

oh, i didnt know that. even though psychologically it doesnt make any sense, it must be proven to be the best way of going about the situation.

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So tempted to yell 'false dichotomy' and leave it at that :ph34r:

Those aren't mutually exclusive, and probably the answer is right down the middle. Cops should, and do, play it by ear. If they're breaking up a fight they're not going to be your best friend. If they're needing your help or just having a conversation, they should not be bullies. We've all dealt with asshole cops who think they run the world. They're horrible, and sometimes dangerous. The uniform, and gun, already lets you know they're the authority. Acting like a grade school bully makes for a shitty cop.


It was hyperbole to make a point, and I was really trying to bait you into saying that lol. It has to be a balance but there does have to be that level of authority instilled, and by nature people are at least a little afraid and anxious around cops and authority figures.

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oh, acting in a way that instills fear and anxiety people makes the people cooperate with you more than in a way that could suggest that you actually care about these people being protected and feeling safe?

oh, i didnt know that. even though psychologically it doesnt make any sense, it must be proven to be the best way of going about the situation.


Oh, sarcasm to try and make an argument? It must be REALLY effective because all the political candidates do it.
Don't even try to get me to believe you know jack shit about psychology.

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It was hyperbole to make a point, and I was really trying to bait you into saying that lol. It has to be a balance but there does have to be that level of authority instilled, and by nature people are at least a little afraid and anxious around cops.



Oh, sarcasm to try and make an argument? It must be REALLY effective because all the political candidates do it.


as i said, everyone is different. people who have nothing to be afraid about because they are law abiding citizens can feel warmth and comfort around police. i would argue that those same people by nature would feel fear and anxiety around a couple bikers part of a gang, that walk into the diner that they are eating at. what about the teenage girl who is saved from the police while being raped?

if you naturally fear the police id say its because of a PO like vanished coming along trying to instill fear and anxiety into you, expecting that it will make his day go by easier or to feed a psychological mindset that doesnt belong in policing, with no care in the world for collateral damage, or you're just a criminal.
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as i said, everyone is different. people who have nothing to be afraid about because they are law abiding citizens can feel warmth and comfort around police. i would argue that those same people by nature would feel fear and anxiety around a couple bikers part of a gang, that walk into the diner that they are eating at. what about the teenage girl who is saved from the police while being raped?

if you naturally fear the police id say its because of a PO like vanished coming along trying to instill fear and anxiety into you, expecting that it will make his day go by easier or to feed a psychological mindset that doesnt belong in policing, with no care in the world for collateral damage, or you're just a criminal.


Wait what. Is this really happening
ITT: I learn that I instill fear to get what I want. Must have been how I got my Trusted Tag. Bullied njaguar into it

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