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Mar 30 2021 07:04am
Quote (SharpNips @ Mar 30 2021 06:47am)
I’m not discounting the skepticism of the AZ vaccine. I’m all for thorough and rigorous testing for side effects and the dangers of vaccines. I have a science degree and I am an advocate of the scientific method in all of its applications. This is also a reason why I trust the results when the scientific community backs something.

What I am confused about are the people not wanting the vaccine because there is a chance you can get really sick, but not scared of Covid and say Covid is nothing to worry about when it statistically has a greater chance of getting really sick.

Also, with all due respect to nurses and the ones administering the vaccine, it is, in my opinion, extremely unethical to give medical advice on something like this in the role they have. They should not be advising individuals, especially in that setting.


With all due respect to the nurses. The administering one was saying this to another nurse getting it. I can't see them advising against it to the general population.

As for your second paragraph, I think what it boils down to is you have 3 vaccines. 2of them seem to be fine. The third, not so much. Out of these three which one would you prefer? I believe it's as simple as that. I've never been an antivaxer so can't comment on on their train of thought. But I've also never felt the need to get the yearly flu vaccine either.
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With all due respect to the nurses. The administering one was saying this to another nurse getting it. I can't see them advising against it to the general population.

As for your second paragraph, I think what it boils down to is you have 3 vaccines. 2of them seem to be fine. The third, not so much. Out of these three which one would you prefer? I believe it's as simple as that. I've never been an antivaxer so can't comment on on their train of thought. But I've also never felt the need to get the yearly flu vaccine either.



Obviously you would prefer the 2 that seem fine. I’m not arguing that. More so towards the people who don’t want any of the vaccines, and use the dangers of the vaccine as their reasoning while simultaneously discounting the dangers of Covid. It’s a fallacy.

I feel like you’re getting the impression i am directing this at you. I am not, I am simply interested in different points of view on this situation.

This post was edited by SharpNips on Mar 30 2021 07:11am
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Quote (SharpNips @ Mar 30 2021 07:08am)
Obviously you would prefer the 2 that seem fine. I’m not arguing that. More so towards the people who don’t want any of the vaccines, and use the dangers of the vaccine as their reasoning while simultaneously discounting the dangers of Covid. It’s a fallacy.

I feel like you’re getting the impression i am directing this at you. I am not, I am simply interested in different points of view on this situation.


As you can tell I get attacked here quite regularly based on my "views" but I got the jist of what you're saying and understand it's not directed at me. Lol. Just giving you my opinion on it. Many are afraid to go against the status quo around here it seems
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Mar 30 2021 07:28am
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It's now 1/100000. Not the 1/1000000 first thought


Yeah according to Germany's recent update. Something like 21 incidents, 19 being girls and 2 men, all under 55.

Canada is a big joke, health Canada and NACI need to work together instead of contradicting each other and confusing citizens. Especially when this specific vaccine has so much controversy around it already. Even if they manage to make it extremely safe overtime, the reputation is donezos and no one will trust using it. Despite UK using it since Christmas etc. Health Canada should comply with them, otherwise its gonna be a big joke and news about which expert to listen to

NACI said AstraZeneca was risky for old people, then retracted their statement after seeing how UK and Ema proved enough data to show otherwise. Now they release this bomb based on Germanys recent numbers.

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Dr. Joss Reimer, the medical lead on Manitoba's vaccine implementation task force, said that the province also would pause its deployment of the vaccine among people under 55 because of a "very rare subtype, one specific type of blood clot."

She said that while there have been no complications reported in Canada, "out of an abundance of caution" Manitoba will restrict the shot to people 55 to 64, for now.

"This is a pause while we wait for more information to better understand what's happened in Europe. This is an important and evidence-based change," she said.


It's good to be cautious and doing their job, but what happens after observing and understanding what's happened in Europe? Even if they retract statement again, many aren't gonna feel confident to take it lmao

307k astrazeneca already given in Canada, 0 incidents. Alrdy opposing Germany's 1 to 100k ratio.

What's crazy is birth control pills cause bloodclots 1 in 1000 lol but sex is fucking awesome so w/e.

Funny how people were afraid of mrna vaccines, but it seems like they'd take those any day over traditional ones thx to astrazeneca

This post was edited by Secksii on Mar 30 2021 07:31am
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Haven’t got a haircut in a year, getting anxious about getting one tomorrow.

On one hand I want to keep growing and see where I can go.

On the other hand it’s annoying snd I west a hat like 90% of the time but I’ve made it this far
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Quote (SharpNips @ Mar 30 2021 06:30am)
Why are people so scared of the AZ vaccine but not Covid? I understand it’s not approved at the moment, and that’s a fair reason to be skeptical. However, statistically Covid has a higher risk of thrombosis when compared to the AZ vaccine.

If you apply the same “logic” everyone seems to use when discounting the dangers of Covid “ I aM YoUnG aNd HeAlThY, i DoNt HaVe To WoRrY aBoUt CoViD”. You should have zero fear of the vaccine.

Is it defiant opposition to anything coming from the government or ignorance/lack of education?



It’s not too complicated. Some people are fucking stupid.
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Haven’t got a haircut in a year, getting anxious about getting one tomorrow.

On one hand I want to keep growing and see where I can go.

On the other hand it’s annoying snd I west a hat like 90% of the time but I’ve made it this far


Barbers shut down in bc? Or you just avoiding them?
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Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Mar 30 2021 08:22am)
Barbers shut down in bc? Or you just avoiding them?



I’d always wanted to grow my hair out but never made it past the awkward stage, but since I haven’t been seeing anyone other than family in friends I decided fuck it.

But now I’ve got a few dates lined up the next few weeks snd I want to look presentable 😂. But on the other hand people say it looks good so idk
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I’d always wanted to grow my hair out but never made it past the awkward stage, but since I haven’t been seeing anyone other than family in friends I decided fuck it.

But now I’ve got a few dates lined up the next few weeks snd I want to look presentable 😂. But on the other hand people say it looks good so idk


Let it flooooow
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Mar 30 2021 11:25am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ 30 Mar 2021 06:03)
It's now 1/100000. Not the 1/1000000 first thought


show an actual medical article with that info and I'll believe you.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n774.full

actual doctors writing about this issue

“The committee has come to a clear scientific conclusion. This is a safe and effective vaccine,” said Emer Cooke, EMA executive director, at a press conference on 18 March. “Its benefits in protecting people from covid-19 with the associated risks of death and hospitalization outweigh the possible risks. The committee also concluded that the vaccine is not associated with an increase in the overall risk of thromboembolic events or blood clots.”

" It said that the clotting disorders could be the result of post-covid syndrome or linked to oral contraceptives." which would be a good reason for the 2/25 people affected being men, as they don't take oral contraceptives
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