Quote (dxlightning @ Jun 20 2013 09:15am)

Or something like after 2 years the player is subject to an audit by NHL doctors. If its found that the player is unlikely to play again, he has to be taken off of IR and retire.

The whole point of the 35+ contract thing was so teams wouldn't sign players past a retirement age just to front load the contract for lower cap hit. It was a risk the flyers took when they signed him to his contract, they should take the consequences as stated in the CBA.

LTIR is for players who have a long recovery ahead of them but could realistically still play. NOT to circumvent the cap when something happens and you're stuck with years on a contract that extend into the players mid 40s

Quote (dragoneth @ Jun 20 2013 10:46am)

technically he could still play if he gets  fully recovered

its not fair to force a player into retirement  and force a team to  take the caphit becasue a shitty leafs player smoked him in the eye  after a shot
its also not fair to force teams to deal with players in this situation the way they do if they would allow buyouts of injured players  this would prob have been dealt  with already

Quote (dxlightning @ Jun 20 2013 08:05am)

Technically vs realistically. Using the word technically is almost synonymous with trying to find a bullshit loophole.
Pronger is currently retired.

Quote (GSG @ Jun 20 2013 11:09am)

I watched a documentary on the Pronger a couple months ago, basically just talked about what happened to him and his current recovery.

The guy still to this day (when the documentary was made) was having trouble with his sight, depth perception, etc. and was spending hours a day training his eyes to improve.  Needless to say, I don't think he's coming back to the NHL ever.  It's way too risky for him, especially if he doesn't fully recover and ends up injuring it worse.  He could be blind before age 45 if he rushes it and tries to come back.

Quote (GSG @ 20 Jun 2013 10:09)

I watched a documentary on the Pronger a couple months ago, basically just talked about what happened to him and his current recovery.

The guy still to this day (when the documentary was made) was having trouble with his sight, depth perception, etc. and was spending hours a day training his eyes to improve.  Needless to say, I don't think he's coming back to the NHL ever.  It's way too risky for him, especially if he doesn't fully recover and ends up injuring it worse.  He could be blind before age 45 if he rushes it and tries to come back.

Quote (dxlightning @ Jun 20 2013 04:14pm)

He's had several doctors tell him he will never play again. He said himself he can't even go for a jog without intense migraines, and can barely even watch the flyers play on his television. He's done. Sad to see but I really think this LTIR crap is cheapening his career.

Quote (dxlightning @ Jun 20 2013 08:14am)

He's had several doctors tell him he will never play again. He said himself he can't even go for a jog without intense migraines, and can barely even watch the flyers play on his television. He's done. Sad to see but I really think this LTIR crap is cheapening his career.

/e but there's always the chance he can heal with the power of Christ so hey, let's pretend that's good enough.

Quote (GSG @ Jun 20 2013 11:34am)

I always thought the intent of LTIR was to allow players to collect their salary still without having to retire.  Because if I was injured and retired I forfeit the remainder of my salary, do I not? or do I misunderstand how this scenario would play out?

Quote (dxlightning @ Jun 20 2013 08:37am)

For a 35+ contract he gets paid either way. That's true for players like Savard.