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Mar 23 2021 07:06pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ 23 Mar 2021 16:41)
Go listen to audio vault at 18mins. They said "so now it does not have fda approval"

March 23 6am show @ 18 mins in. I guess me making it sound like they "lost" it Implies they had it before which they didn't. But literally everything else I said was correct. Lol you guys are funny jumping over everything I say


What I find real amusing is you're more concerned with me saying the term lost then you are with them fudging numbers or health Canada labeling a side affect of astrazeneca being blood clots.


i just found the sequence you mentioned, as i figured you came to your own conclusion and misinterpreted what she said.

She mentions that they conducted the study with over 30k ppl, which she's referring to the phase 3 clinical trial astra currently is in process with.

She says that there's 79% efficacy rate preventing serious illnesses, this is false. It's 79% efficacy rate at preventing covid symptoms. It's 100% effective in stopping severe disease and hospitalization.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-23/astra-may-have-given-outdated-details-on-vaccine-says-u-s-body
She is referring to the link above about their data being potentially fudged so it does not have FDA approval. Until it gets an approval, they cannot get the vaccine to edmonton on loan. No where does she say that FDA has denied AstraZeneca.
She literally says because of the issues above, it cannot get FDA approval until they get that sorted out, which is true. Fauci also recommends they update the info so they can move onto the next step because the vaccine is promising. Once that's done and their phase 3 trial is complete, they can eventually get to the step where they apply for approval by the FDA. This is when the FDA decides to DENY or APPROVE it.

I'm more concerned with the fact that you got confused as i suspected and misheard it, and you even went back to listen again and still came to the same conclusion..

I'm not concerned about the numbers because that's the entire point of going through these clinical trials and phases, to show accurate possible data and facts. It means they're correctly following the steps before applying for approval to the FDA. Alternatively, if they got something to hide they can just say fuck you murica and not comply with the process and just call it a day.

As for health canada labelling a side affect causing blood clot:

"Health Canada is working on adding a warning to the Canadian label on the vaccine because of the possible, though rare, risk of blood clots.

The European Medicines Agency added such a warning last week after reports that 38 people developed blood clots, out of almost 20 million people who were vaccinated.

The warning says the overall risk of blood clots is not heightened by the vaccine but it may cause a very rare blood clot in the brain. Scientists in Germany and Norway said they believe they have identified the cause as an extreme immune reaction, but said it is treatable and very rare."

how rare? 38 out of 20million people and it's treatable. Best part? far more lower amount of blood clot incidents compared to the unvaccinated group. It's also much more rare than covid causing death and they can't be revived since it's IRL not a game. A lot of people aren't too concerned about covid causing death to people all over the world, but they're very concerned about a vaccine that protects you from the said virus to end this pandemic with a much more slim chance of something very rare to happen and is also treatable. hm.

This post was edited by Secksii on Mar 23 2021 07:08pm
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Mar 23 2021 07:27pm
Look man. Maybe I I confused not realizing they were in fda approval process. But she did say "so now it does not have fda approval" exactly where I told you she did. Shortly after that was when I posted here saying it "lost" fda approval. Like fuck sakes we're arguing over this?

If you had the choice of moderna. Pfizer. Astrazeneca. Which vaccine will you choose and why?

It's really that simple. I'm not trying to fear monger here.
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Mar 23 2021 07:36pm
Quote (Subban2 @ Mar 23 2021 08:32pm)
Your new truck? Call another dealer lol they have loaner

If none want text me your vin and i can call for you to one of the gm dealership i make business with



so it might just be that my dealer is being a retard

hhhmmm

so ima to give you a whisky bottle o.o

a good one

This post was edited by max09 on Mar 23 2021 07:41pm
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good old friendly subban saves the day
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Mar 24 2021 03:38am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ 23 Mar 2021 18:27)
Look man. Maybe I I confused not realizing they were in fda approval process. But she did say "so now it does not have fda approval" exactly where I told you she did. Shortly after that was when I posted here saying it "lost" fda approval. Like fuck sakes we're arguing over this?

If you had the choice of moderna. Pfizer. Astrazeneca. Which vaccine will you choose and why?

It's really that simple. I'm not trying to fear monger here.


I'm not trying to argue at all, there's nothing to really argue about. I'm literally just telling it as is. I suspected that you got confused but you insisted that you weren't cuz the radio said so. You were sure that she said fda denied them and she never said that. At least you figured it out now.

Yes, she does say it does not have fda approval, which is exactly true. Other vaccines that did not apply for approval also do not have fda approval. Simply because they haven't applied yet. Not a hard concept. Idk why it has to be. However you can't say that it means all those vaccine companies were denied for being in process or simply cuz they havent applied for the fda to make a decision.

As for your vaccine question the answer is simple, I'll take any of the approved vaccine offered to me that works best for my body. They all have 100% effectiveness against hospitalization and severe illness, but most importantly it significantly protects you from getting covid. Each vaccines have their own minor risk. Watch the vox video I linked earlier as to why, they explain things very well and it's not too long.

This post was edited by Secksii on Mar 24 2021 03:40am
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Mar 24 2021 07:00am
Quote (max09 @ Mar 23 2021 04:34pm)
oh it's not flashing so its nothing serious for sure

it's just they need my truck for xx days and they won't offer shit

covid = they give 0 fuck about costumer service


they can get in my vehicule right?
im not driving it in and out of the shop

how come i can't get a vehicule for a couple days

thats so dumb


you just need to go ham

Also go on google and write a terribad review.
I did that twice and both times i got a call within a few days and got offered more than what i was asking in the first place in exchange to change my review. One of those time was with my car dealer, they didnt want to do repairs cause waranty was expired by a few months. The day after the review (if not the same day not sure) the manager called me and asked to bring my car and they'll do all the repairs in exchange to change my review. Worth a shot in your situation i think.

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Mar 24 2021 07:30am
Quote (Secksii @ 24 Mar 2021 04:38)
I'm not trying to argue at all, there's nothing to really argue about. I'm literally just telling it as is. I suspected that you got confused but you insisted that you weren't cuz the radio said so. You were sure that she said fda denied them and she never said that. At least you figured it out now.

Yes, she does say it does not have fda approval, which is exactly true. Other vaccines that did not apply for approval also do not have fda approval. Simply because they haven't applied yet. Not a hard concept. Idk why it has to be. However you can't say that it means all those vaccine companies were denied for being in process or simply cuz they havent applied for the fda to make a decision.

As for your vaccine question the answer is simple, I'll take any of the approved vaccine offered to me that works best for my body. They all have 100% effectiveness against hospitalization and severe illness, but most importantly it significantly protects you from getting covid. Each vaccines have their own minor risk. Watch the vox video I linked earlier as to why, they explain things very well and it's not too long.



Thanks for stopping the spread of fake news
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Mar 24 2021 08:21am
To be fair lots of drugs have had FDA approval and have turned out to be terrible for people and then removed from the market so you can’t base everything on this metric
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Mar 24 2021 10:36am
Quote (dirTyMan @ 24 Mar 2021 07:21)
To be fair lots of drugs have had FDA approval and have turned out to be terrible for people and then removed from the market so you can’t base everything on this metric


i agree, except FDA has never pulled vaccine straight up off the market like the drugs. The concern would be the specific batches being contaminated, which is never intended when cultivating to make the vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html

It's most likely because vaccine has a much higher threshold than drugs because it's preventative.
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Mar 24 2021 05:57pm
Quote (max09 @ Mar 23 2021 09:36pm)
so it might just be that my dealer is being a retard

hhhmmm

so ima to give you a whisky bottle o.o

a good one


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