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Jun 3 2021 10:44am
Quote (VAS3CT0MY @ Jun 3 2021 01:38pm)
He made no attempt to play the puck because that wouldve presented an added element of danger, him travelling as fast as he was if he dove for the puck he probably wouldve went face first into the post, so imo he played the body in hopes he got there before the dude was able to wrap it around into the net.

It certainly was reckless, but not dirty.



I mean, it doesn’t really make sense to say his body could get there an prevent the goal faster than his stick which he can extend 6 feet in front of his body. It’s also very easy for us to make these calculated decisions based off a replay. I know I’ve been on both sides of these situations and when emotions are running high it’s easy to make a mistake and deliver a hit like this.

It is a unique case nonetheless, I’m interested to see what he gets. My guess is 4 games
Probably deserves 1-2 based on the violent nature of the hit + resulting injury

This post was edited by SharpNips on Jun 3 2021 10:48am
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Jun 3 2021 10:50am
Quote (Meatstick @ Jun 3 2021 09:44am)
He charged. He gained maximum speed coming in, regardless if he stopped striding slightly before. He knew what he was doing, had plenty of time to think it through, it was just dirty and unnecessary. It was illegal. The charging rules unfortunately isn’t super clear but that was textbook charging


The thing is, which hit isn't charging? There are no hits where the hitter is literally standing still, all hits begin with a player skating from a distance.

How about when a player dumps a puck at the blue line, skates directly at the D-man who's going behind the net to retrieve the puck, and finishes his check right after the D-man gets rid of the puck? The timing on those hits isn't any different than the timing on this one, and those happen 100 times a game. And obviously the forechecker has no real intention of separating the player from the puck in those instances, usually the puck has already been moved on. Sometimes D-men can get separated shoulders from these kinds of hits, but nobody ever says anything about it.

The only thing different here is the result, because Evans put himself in a lot more vulnerable of a position than what is usually the case for those D-men.

And like I said before, where does anyone expect him to go? It's a playoff game and they're down 1 with 1 minute left and the opposing team is about to score. Is he supposed to go for a line change, or skate at the opposing player? That's why I don't get the "he came from across the ice" thing. Unless he could teleport like in D2 he really didn't have much of a choice.

He did have a choice in hitting vs stick-checking, especially because stick-checking would have probably been the more effective defensive play in this situation, but that decision is not against the rules.

This post was edited by LuLer on Jun 3 2021 10:54am
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Jun 3 2021 11:34am
The charge is one thing, the hit to the head another

Anyone arguing that it wasn't a hit to the head please explain how Evan's head snapped to his right before the rest of his body reacted to the impact and i'll see afterward who i choose to believe between you and basic physics

https://twitter.com/i/status/1400275216132096002
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The charge is one thing, the hit to the head another

Anyone arguing that it wasn't a hit to the head please explain how Evan's head snapped to his right before the rest of his body reacted to the impact and i'll see afterward who i choose to believe between you and basic physics

https://twitter.com/i/status/1400275216132096002


Do you have a reverse angle? This one doesn't really show the impact clearly.

I'm not saying it wasn't a headshot, just haven't seen a view as of yet that clearly shows it.

If it's not discernable that the head was the principle point of contact I don't know if they can claim it was even with a head snap.

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Do you have a reverse angle? This one doesn't really show the impact clearly.

I'm not saying it wasn't a headshot, just haven't seen a view as of yet that clearly shows it.

If it's not discernable that the head was the principle point of contact I don't know if they can claim it was even with a head snap.


https://i.imgur.com/xW0suBc.gif

Haven't seen any better angle than those

Looks clear that the jaw is or at least is one of the main point of contact just by how and when the head snaps

It's a face to face hit it's not gonna be like a sideway hit where the head can cleary be the only main point of contact

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Quote (Weber @ Jun 3 2021 11:36am)
https://i.imgur.com/xW0suBc.gif

Haven't seen any better angle than those

Looks clear that the jaw is or at least is one of the main point of contact just by how and when the head snaps

It's a face to face hit it's not gonna be like a sideway hit where the head can cleary be the only main point of contact


I'm not saying it wasn't, but IMO neither of these angles prove it (which is what the Jets will argue).
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Jun 3 2021 01:41pm
Canada ended up beating Russia in OT :O
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Jun 3 2021 02:04pm
all of you saying its a charge, do you agree that krugs hit was a charge?

because i recall half of you saying that shit was perfectly fine

my memory is also horrible so yeh
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Canada ended up beating Russia in OT :O


I didn’t even realize they qualified to the elimination rounds lol
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Quote (partank @ 3 Jun 2021 16:04)
all of you saying its a charge, do you agree that krugs hit was a charge?

because i recall half of you saying that shit was perfectly fine

my memory is also horrible so yeh



Krug hit was perfectly fine
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