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Jun 3 2021 07:27am
Winnipeg’s Mark Scheifele will have a hearing today for Charging Montreal’s Jake Evans.
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Jun 3 2021 08:39am
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Winnipeg’s Mark Scheifele will have a hearing today for Charging Montreal’s Jake Evans.


But how is it even charging... He didnt take the necessary amount strides to directly and solely make a body check. He glided at the end, and wad travelling much too fast to stop or avoid contact by the time the puck left the stick.

They really need to define charging better at this point, it seems like every year we have confusion about the definition of the charging rule.
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Jun 3 2021 09:51am
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But how is it even charging... He didnt take the necessary amount strides to directly and solely make a body check. He glided at the end, and wad travelling much too fast to stop or avoid contact by the time the puck left the stick.

They really need to define charging better at this point, it seems like every year we have confusion about the definition of the charging rule.


Exactly, it's completely arbitrary. What does "considerable distance" even mean? Who decides it? Every hit is different.

He glided at the end and didn't jump.
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Jun 3 2021 09:54am
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This play in particular though it looked pretty clear that he had plenty of time to think it through, and his intent was to destroy a guy rather than try to stop a goal. It wasn't completely late so you could MAYBE argue that he WAS trying to prevent the goal (I'm sure Shiefele will), I just won't buy it in this instance. In 2021 both players have responsiblity, if this was 20 years ago everyone would agree it was clean


Yeah I can agree that it was unnecessary and probably wasn't the best way to stop Evans from scoring.

You can consider that dirty, but not illegal, unless there's a clear rule about "going out of your way to injure with a clean hit" that I have no idea about. Judging intent is obviously a can of worms to begin with.
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Jun 3 2021 10:15am
Quote (VAS3CT0MY @ Jun 3 2021 11:39am)
But how is it even charging... He didnt take the necessary amount strides to directly and solely make a body check. He glided at the end, and wad travelling much too fast to stop or avoid contact by the time the puck left the stick.

They really need to define charging better at this point, it seems like every year we have confusion about the definition of the charging rule.



I don’t think there is a “necessary amount of strides” for it to be considered charging. I remember as a child being told taking 3 strides before checking was ok but anything more was charging. Same goes for gliding before making contact, that’s not specified in the rules, more of a colloquial way of explaining what charging is.


Based off the way the rule is currently written, it’s a clear “charge” imo.
He travelled 75% of the distance of the ice with the sole intention of delivering a body check. I say sole intention because he didn’t seem interested in playing for the puck first.

I think a biggest problem here the rule is vaguely and arbitrarily written.

This post was edited by SharpNips on Jun 3 2021 10:16am
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But how is it even charging... He didnt take the necessary amount strides to directly and solely make a body check. He glided at the end, and wad travelling much too fast to stop or avoid contact by the time the puck left the stick.

They really need to define charging better at this point, it seems like every year we have confusion about the definition of the charging rule.


he skated up the entire ice with the intention of making a hit. it was the most chargiest charge that ever charged
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Jun 3 2021 10:28am
I see no difference between this hit and krugs few years back

This one was very unnecessary but it is literally the exact same
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Jun 3 2021 10:38am
Quote (SharpNips @ Jun 3 2021 09:15am)
I don’t think there is a “necessary amount of strides” for it to be considered charging. I remember as a child being told taking 3 strides before checking was ok but anything more was charging. Same goes for gliding before making contact, that’s not specified in the rules, more of a colloquial way of explaining what charging is.


Based off the way the rule is currently written, it’s a clear “charge” imo.
He travelled 75% of the distance of the ice with the sole intention of delivering a body check. I say sole intention because he didn’t seem interested in playing for the puck first.

I think a biggest problem here the rule is vaguely and arbitrarily written.


He made no attempt to play the puck because that wouldve presented an added element of danger, him travelling as fast as he was if he dove for the puck he probably wouldve went face first into the post, so imo he played the body in hopes he got there before the dude was able to wrap it around into the net.

It certainly was reckless, but not dirty.
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I see no difference between this hit and krugs few years back

This one was very unnecessary but it is literally the exact same



Resulting injury in the Scheifele hit is definitely making things worse for him.
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Jun 3 2021 10:44am
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Yeah I can agree that it was unnecessary and probably wasn't the best way to stop Evans from scoring.

You can consider that dirty, but not illegal, unless there's a clear rule about "going out of your way to injure with a clean hit" that I have no idea about. Judging intent is obviously a can of worms to begin with.



He charged. He gained maximum speed coming in, regardless if he stopped striding slightly before. He knew what he was doing, had plenty of time to think it through, it was just dirty and unnecessary. It was illegal. The charging rule unfortunately isn’t super clear but that was textbook charging

No direct headshot, but it was definitely predatory and he targeted a vulnerable player

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