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Jun 19 2014 12:03pm
Quote (Darc-Deth @ Jun 19 2014 07:02pm)
its florida

hes not a 3c

hes the first line center, maybe second


yeah, except vinny didnt outscore our #2 center in bjugstad, and barkov was on his way to outproduce him too

so...
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Jun 19 2014 12:04pm
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pretty sure florida can sign better players for lesser term or bigger money


They have to sign essentially a complete team. They have to start somewhere. And if Campbell really wants out, this may be their option. They'll probably have to retain salary and take Rosehill too, but I can see it happening.

Hell, if it's possible (LTIR and such) I can see them taking on the rest of Prongers contract. Salary wise he makes less than 600k for the final two years, and he could help them reach the cap floor since the cap will be going up yet again
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Jun 19 2014 12:05pm
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They have to sign essentially a complete team. They have to start somewhere. And if Campbell really wants out, this may be their option. They'll probably have to retain salary and take Rosehill too, but I can see it happening.

Hell, if it's possible (LTIR and such) I can see them taking on the rest of Prongers contract. Salary wise he makes less than 600k for the final two years, and he could help them reach the cap floor since the cap will be going up yet again


aand why wouldn't we overpay for two decent wingers this off-season instead, and have players actually contributing?

im pretty sure philly won't be on campbells 8 teams anyway
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Jun 19 2014 12:05pm
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yeah, except vinny didnt outscore our #2 center in bjugstad, and barkov was on his way to outproduce him too

so...


37 points in 69 games vs 38 points in 76 games

also philly has better centers, so vinny didn't get as much ice time


arguing that bjugstad is better than vinny in any way at this point in time is just ridiculous
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Jun 19 2014 12:06pm
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37 points in 69 games vs 38 points in 76 games

also philly has better centers, so vinny didn't get as much ice time


arguing that bjugstad is better than vinny in any way at this point in time is just ridiculous


you do realize vinny is signed for _4_ more years?
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Jun 19 2014 12:07pm
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you do realize vinny is signed for _4_ more years?


you do realize florida has never come anywhere near the cap...so who cares

they aren't paying for his talent, they are paying for his leadership...his talent is a bonus cuz florida is so fucking god awful and never seems to get any better
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Jun 19 2014 12:08pm
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you do realize vinny is signed for _4_ more years?


And Luongo is signed for another 8. That didn't stop them...
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Jun 19 2014 12:10pm
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you do realize florida has never come anywhere near the cap...so who cares

they aren't paying for his talent, they are paying for his leadership...his talent is a bonus cuz florida is so fucking god awful and never seems to get any better


yeah, this might be the reason why they're not a good team, taking on shitty contracts

what would the cost be? he's worth basically nothing and would be a CBO if it was possible for philly

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And Luongo is signed for another 8. That didn't stop them...


yeah, but luongo is a very good player still, unlike vinny

and luongo sells A LOT of tickets, vinny doesnt

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Jun 19 2014 12:12pm
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yeah, this might be the reason why they're not a good team, taking on shitty contracts

what would the cost be? he's worth basically nothing and would be a CBO if it was possible for philly


no they're not a good team cuz they are garbage at developing prospects

look at weiss, horton, bouwmeester...florida had a bright future and fucked it all up

theyll do the same thing with their new young kids unless they get some actual leadership instead of firing a coach every year and thinking their 1st line full of 3rd line players is going to get them anywhere
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Jun 19 2014 12:14pm
Have you watched Vinny play recently? We're not talking about a washed up player here. They guy can still get 50-60 points no problem if he gets the ice time. He didn't work with Berube's system and was constantly on the 4th line, only getting 10 minutes a game. Even with that he still put up decent numbers. I would still want him on Philly if there was room, but the fit just isn't right.
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