the good ol why the flyers sucks debate seem to happen every off season lol

Cause they suck every year

at least its something to do in the offseason no

nah but for real ill explain myself if it makes a difference
1. flyers last season were like top 3 in man games lost and were one of the highest games lost by top players on the team so just being healthy should help improve on last season
2. ellis playing 4 games then being gone all season sucked thats a big hole to fill and it was filled with a 3rd pair guy in just braun all season thats asking for failure not only did it give us a crappy 1st pair the 3rd pair was yandle/ahl call up
3. deangelo addition-brings in a much better player to fill thats ellis hole then braun and should help the powerplay on the back end and bump up that 12% from last season helping the offense
4. yandle subtraction - this guy was literally the worst d man ive seen in years his defense ability was negative he was so bad the fact hes gone is huge like thats the understatement of the year he was TERRIBLE
5. torts is a much better coach then AV and he doesnt take no bullshit and i think that kind of attitude with the supporting cast he has is going to improve the play on a lot of players AV had none of that he was over his head he lost the team if he ever had them
6. the biggest loss is obviously giroux gone and farabee out to start the season sucks but i still think we have enough offense to win games we had some young kids get a shot last season who looked pretty impressive and could be giving flyers much better depth this season

my biggest concern would be coming up the deadline even if were on the bubble for wildcard i still think were sellers with guys like sanheim/braun/jvr and that would hurt the team a good bit standings wise
although if ellis comes back healthy at some point we could probably ship out sanheim np

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 24 2022 07:44pm

Puljujarvi signs with oilers. 1yr 3mill. Ugh.

Jonas Siegenthaler, signed to a 5x$3.4M extension by NJ

Wow extremely good deal for a top 4 shutdown dman

Cheap, will be a nice partner for Nemec as well.

based on analytics

What's this mean "surplus value"? That's how much they being paid more than they should over length of contract based on "analytics"?

5. Darnell Nurse



Contract: $9.3M x eight years

Surplus Value: -$35.1M

Positive Value Probability: 22.7 percent

Basically, anything said in the Seth Jones blurb can be happily applied here for Darnell Nurse as well. He too has a roughly one-in-five chance of living up to his $9 million-plus deal where the biggest issue is contract length for a 27-year-old. Nurse also eats minutes and scores, but is probably not a true number one defender. The talent is there to be more, but the price tag is still too high.

Here’s the main difference with Nurse though: his last two seasons were strong enough to be a bit more optimistic about his future.

Early on in Nurse’s career, he struggled defensively and that was a continuous source of concern about his future as a high-end defender. Even his breakthrough year in 2021 was mostly driven by offence. Nurse was worth 1.9 wins that season, but there was plenty of reason to be skeptical he could keep that up. Combine that with The McDavid Factor likely boosting his numbers (something GSVA controls for to an extent) and there was good reason to be skeptical of Nurse’s new deal.

The 2021-22 season changed the math a bit. Nurse’s own scoring regressed, as did his offensive impact, but he cleaned up his defensive game to a substantial degree. Relative to teammates, he wasn’t giving up more chances against which is a departure from the entirety of his career. Overall, his effect was still negative. However, his offence more than made up for that. That’s a huge step and once again he played at a 1.9-win pace — not far off from the 2.1 wins he needs to be at to be worth his hefty cap hit.

The length of the deal and his age still make Nurse’s contract a very unlikely bet, but his recent trajectory leaves some room for optimism. In the short term, the deal may not be as painful as once thought. It’s worth noting too that Nurse’s best comp is Brent Burns so the best may be yet to come here (though, on the other hand, Brent Seabrook wasn’t far off either).

Tbh this is quite a fair assessment actually. And yes this contract is scary. Thx for the info