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Jan 6 2015 01:32pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Jan 6 2015 02:16pm)
and i completely understand you can get by with  english in montreal im not arguing that
but once again why  is it surprising that somebody there only knows french?why  go out of your way to point that out ?
theres people in ontario that  speak only french and ontario isnt even really known as bilingual


Because it is? It's taught in schools, a majority of Montrealers are fluent, the ones that aren't tend to be migrants from outside of Montreal/elderly people. It's a skill that not only makes you more attractive for jobs, if you don't speak it it's actually a hindrance to get one. The people in Ontario that only speak French live in isolated parts of Ontario, and the youth in those communities will speak English.

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Not sure where this comes from, but I live here and trust me most french quebecers, ask them where are they from and they say Quebec, not Canada. And claim to be Quebecois, not Canadian.




Quote (Galchenyuk @ Jan 6 2015 02:30pm)
I dont live in Montreal.


Says so in your profile.

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That's because you're Canadian and they're French.


i'm a canadian with a french education

It's a normal self-defence mechanism. The day I won't be able to order Tim hortons in french I'll be very sad.

Until future generations forget that their grand parents spoke french, that fear of losing part of who we are will always be there.

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Jan 6 2015 01:37pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jan 6 2015 02:32pm)
Because it is? It's taught in schools, a majority of Montrealers are fluent, the ones that aren't tend to be migrants from outside of Montreal/elderly people. It's a skill that not only makes you more attractive for jobs, if you don't speak it it's actually a hindrance to get one. The people in Ontario that only speak French live in isolated parts of Ontario, and the youth in those communities will speak English.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Censusdivisions-ethnic.png


what does ethnicity have to do with it ? and thers no way thats right + its from 06
:lol: im done this is pointless
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Jan 6 2015 01:42pm
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what does ethnicity have to do with it ? and thers no way thats right  + its from 06
:lol: im  done this is pointless



plus its racist, they gave NA Indians brown color
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Jan 6 2015 01:45pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Jan 6 2015 02:37pm)
what does ethnicity have to do with it ? and thers no way thats right  + its from 06
:lol: im  done this is pointless


I love when you make a post asking a stupid question that is answered if you learned how to read.

H4bs said most Quebecois would self-identify as Quebecois not Canadian. I countered with census data that showed people in Quebec actually overwhelmingly self-identify as Canadian. It's about 65%, which is close to the percentage of people who would vote to stay in Canada if another independence referendum was held.
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Jan 6 2015 01:46pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jan 6 2015 02:32pm)
Because it is? It's taught in schools, a majority of Montrealers are fluent, the ones that aren't tend to be migrants from outside of Montreal/elderly people. It's a skill that not only makes you more attractive for jobs, if you don't speak it it's actually a hindrance to get one. The people in Ontario that only speak French live in isolated parts of Ontario, and the youth in those communities will speak English.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Censusdivisions-ethnic.png



Says so in your profile.


Not sure what that proves... french people will not say they are french, they will say they are Quebecois.

French is not Quebecois
Quote (Caedus @ Jan 6 2015 02:45pm)
I love when you make a post asking a stupid question that is answered if you learned how to read.

H4bs said most Quebecois would self-identify as Quebecois not Canadian. I countered with census data that showed people in Quebec actually overwhelmingly self-identify as Canadian. It's about 65%, which is close to the percentage of people who would vote to stay in Canada if another independence referendum was held.


That is false, Quebecois will not identify themselves as french. I never said that.

For you it might not be a big difference but it is here

French in that cencus = France. Quebecers =/= France

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Jan 6 2015 01:49pm
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Says so in your profile.


People lie
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Jan 6 2015 01:50pm
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People lie



Lie people
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Jan 6 2015 01:51pm
Caedus taking a page out of koj's boring day at the farm book.
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Quote (h4bs @ Jan 6 2015 02:46pm)
Not sure what that proves... french people will not say they are french, they will say they are Quebecois.

French is not Quebecois


That is false, Quebecois will not identify themselves as french. I never said that.

For you it might not be a big difference but it is here


I never said they would self-identify as French. You said Quebecois will not self-identify as Canadian, yet ~65% of them did do so in the census. This is self-identified, they could have picked someone else other than Canadian if they didn't felt that think it applied to them. 'Canadian' isn't an ethnic origin, it's a way of expressing that you're not French, English, Irish or German, you're just "Canadian". And Quebecois people do this.

I don't know what to tell you. The census is a statistical study that is pretty much un-refutable.

Quote (Galchenyuk @ Jan 6 2015 02:49pm)
People lie


Lol why lie about that? Unless you're from some embarrassing place like Baie-Comeau...

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