he's been practicing but pretty sure its still non-contact, but thats all i know.



Vrana and Mantha have almost identical numbres the past two years, mantha was on track to have a better year last year by about 0.11 points per game.
I think the swap of the two is pretty even, i expected to get like a 1st+ for him, so i think washington probably did overpay slightly, but if he plays well and helps them to a deep run/cup at any point in the next 3 years then it was easily worth it.

caps definitely overpaid

if you look at the numbers without any context i guess they're even, but like you said mantha is 0.11 pts better still despite being in a rebuilding team at the bottom of standings.
You used just last 2 years, caps are #1 in the league this season and #2 for goals for as a team. Guess where your team was the last 2 years

no doubt, but with mantha its an effort issue as well as a health issue, he's had plenty of opportunities to score more, but he doesnt keep his feet moving, and has the propensity to be lazy when trying to pick his spot and shoots right into the goalies chest.
I think he has the opportunity to produce more with the caps, but his numbers arent going to get all that much better if he isnt putting in the effort or staying healthy.

we'll see how it all goes down, but like i said, if mantha helps the caps to a cup or is atleast instrumental in a deep run at some point in the next few years it'll be worth the overpayment.

yeah thats bs the nhl should have a doctor check guys out every so often like once a month if they are on LTIR
the team can just pay off the team doctor to say hes not ready...thats so dumb

This post was edited by dragoneth on Apr 12 2021 03:17pm

On the flip side Mantha had plenty of chances to shine on a weaker team.

Vrana was always behind a bunch of other players on the depth chart so he got less minutes and offensive opportunity.

It is an absolute sham.

Tampa has a stacked team due to cap exploitation.

They were able to keep players they should have never been able to afford and they loaded up at the deadline as well.

They should be punished for circumvention.

Yeah we get to see how they both do, Vrana finally gets his chance to play more. Mantha reaps the benefit of playing more chill and potentially cherry picked minutes due to depth

Vrana got his fair share of chances and made the most of it playing with nearly ppg centers. Other teams are still focused to put out their best against Ovechkin.

Vrana had the luxury to be deployed 70% in the ozone this season and he averaged only 14 min on the ice. I'd say that's a very good offensive opportunity despite sounding like he's sheltered. (opposed to mantha at 50% dzone/ozone) Lavi and coaches love the way Vrana plays with the puck, but not so much away from the puck as he has similar problems as mantha's inconsistent effort level, and plays perimeter rather than battling for the puck. His ice time should increase in Detroit, playing top minutes with Larkin, but it also means that the other teams will put their best to focus shutting him down as well.

If mantha was scoring at a slightly higher rate than Vrana on a weaker team with his lack of effort, he should still theoritcally score more on a team that scores a lot (50goals more as of today) regardless of his effort level. So if mantha puts in the effort, it would be even more beneficial to him

If Canucks did it, Bettman woulda sent his men alrdy and fine/punish the team haha

yeah
usually teams are like "good chance this players back by then"
but tsn and shit have been acting like its a sure thing for months now like hes been healthy for months now

1. id be pissed if i was kucherov if i was healthy and forced to sit
2. im pissed as a fan because like you said they are able to cheat the system and even add on a team already spending to the cap due to the exploitation
its really not fair and its wild the nhl is doing nothing about it this league is so bias its honestly bs

This post was edited by dragoneth on Apr 12 2021 10:51pm

No doubt. Just ridiculous. Still mad over the Luongo recapture penalty tbh lol.