because there's only 2 other guys not on ELC right now lol

we also only have 1 player over 30 and it's Anisimov

This post was edited by Meatstick on Oct 10 2020 04:47pm

Leafs give Johnsson to Devils for essentially a warm body.

Zadorov for Saad @ 1M retained (so he has 1 x 5M left)

Nice deal for Avs.

Letting all his good players walk for free to division rivals counts as something stupid

Well your goalie situation is much better now but tanev is a downgrade compared to brodie

Cant resign your good players when you gave 4-5 bad contract and nobody want your trash

This post was edited by Nihility on Oct 10 2020 05:27pm

Should have flipped Demko for big assets, kept the legitimate starter, not lose Toffoli for nothing after paying for him. Right now they’re starting next season a worse team imho.

This post was edited by StayPositive on Oct 10 2020 05:31pm

Definitely.

Still time to make trades but we'll have to give up assets for the players we receive + give up assets for dumping cap.

Assuming Ferland is LTIRetired, we have about 12 million to:

- Sign Toffoli (or a similar top-6 forward)
- Re-sign Virtanen
- Re-sign Gaudette
- Fit in two top-4 D-men... somehow

Either something's gotta give or management is content with us taking a step back next season. A lot of Canucks fans are advocating for this right now, and it may be the wise route to take, just sucks that we're 6+ years into the rebuild, haven't done anything yet, and are already in cap hell lol.

It is pure pain but waiting for terrible contracts to expire may be the best thing to happen to this team.

It just pisses me off because if those terrible contracts were not on the books the Canucks could be making a push for contention status on the short term seeing they got some time before Petey and Hughes take in the big payday.


One way to look at it:

Holty gone in two years - Demko the presumed number one goalie and all the garbage contracts are off the books. The cost to unload these anchors is to high. That has been proven.

By then you hope the core is all signed long term and you position yourself to be a force for years to come. For that to happen everything needs to line up just right though.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Oct 10 2020 06:24pm

There was 2 ways Benning could have done,

first is your way, sell the future and go for "win now" window with 6 anchor contracts. Even if Benning managed to bring Tanev, Markstrom and Toffoli back, the team is still not good enough to be in the same tier as cup contending teams like boston, tampa, and vegas.
Benning could've aquired OEL and gave Arizona Demko (rumor is they wanted demko, but benning didn't budge). So Benning would've gave them picks + demko + cap dump to re-sign all those ufa's back.
The Canucks would be much more competitive right away, but be severely held back with the shitty bottom 6 with anchor contracts to improve the team any further. When 2022 comes along and most of their shit contracts are gone, they have new ones from OEL, tanev and markstrom to long term.
Then pray Markstrom has another 3 years to be competitive/MVP be injure free, tanev and edler are most likely 3rd pair or hanging in there. Gotta remember the Canucks only made the playoffs because of win %, it looked like they were going to miss the playoffs if the season continued on.

second way is what i think benning is doing, let the key players leave because of longer term they wanted and not be tied down to them when the current anchor contracts are gone. Take a step back this coming season, see what the kids got, they currently have all their picks for next season as they didnt give it away to arizona for OEL (possibly higher pick from regressing), basically use this covid season to see what prospects can make the jump or dump, and see what they got before making further decisions for the 2022 window. With Petey and Hughes locked up next year, only the canucks core would be locked up (horvat and miller still on cap friendly deals) then use the huge amount of cap space they have to compliment the core for a geunine run for the cup. 2022 and onwards this canuck team would be so much better than the 1st option, 2022 and onwards team as crucial key players like markstrom,tanev,OEL etc. are paid, locked up and verge of declining. biggest issue the canucks were being held back were the backend core and the bottom 6, all of those problems will be revamped and the canucks would still have their core intact.

Losing Toffoli sucks too, as Benning paid for him to play only like 20 games. However, he made the trade early on before the price got absurdly high around to league considering worse players went for much more later on. The Canucks dumped Schaller in that trade as well, so i look at it like we traded Madden for Toffoli, 2nd pick for Schaller's cap dump. Had Benning not made the trade, i think canucks would have been stuck with schaller's cap too. There was no way the canucks would have made it to the playoffs even with the win % if there was no toffoli to replace boeser and injured markstrom. That means no valuable playoff experience for the young team, owning the wild, blues and almost the knights, and no witnessing demko becoming inhuman for 3 games etc. but i guess they woulda been happy to draft the goalie ian clark wanted so bad with their 2nd pick, and give a high 1st pick to tampa/jersey in the process lolol

This post was edited by Secksii on Oct 11 2020 09:59am

Tell me about it. This offseason has been so liberating for us