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This. He could break it but he will not play that long as you said.

I think he is the kind of player who will retire while still being a 1st line caliber player.

He won't stick around and play another 5 years, or even possibly more (which I bet he could do) as a 2nd line forward and power play specialist.

I think after this season he will play another two years and still manage ~ 40 goals or more during those seasons.

Predicting he will be around the 800 goal mark when he retires.

If that is what ends up happening I would still consider him the best pure goal scorer of all time, despite not holding the record.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Nov 9 2019 12:18pm

Then you’d be lying

If not Ovechkin who would you consider the best goal scorer of all time? Of course this in all a matter of opinion and there is a handful of rational choices to pick from.


To me it is Ovechkin (if he finishes around 800 goals as I predict) because he has dominated the peers of his era. Even if his career ended abruptly now I still think he is in the discussion.

Only 3 players are ahead of him in goals per game that played in the modern era. Bossy, Lemieux and Bure.

Those players all sadly has their careers cut very short due to injury.

To me the ability to score in an era with lower overall scoring than other decades combined with the longevity he has had makes him #1 to me.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Nov 9 2019 01:26pm

Oilers era Gretzky is the king of goal scoring. No one could, can or will touch him. I know, I was there. (in before old as fuck jokes)

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2.398 points per game in 80's lol. That will never be duplicated.

Gretzky put up 1842 points in one decade. Peter Stastny came a distant second with 1059.

Between him and Kurri they scored 1100 goals over a 10 year period.This amazed me.

If the debate is between the best of anything significant for one decade Gretzky wins without contest. I am going for longevity as the greatest goal scorer though.


What I would argue is while Gretzky dominated the competition by such a wide margin in the 80's on a stacked team that was not the case in the 1990's.

During this decade his best season was 41 goals. In fact if you begin in 90-91 that 41 goal season was the only one in which he scored 40 or more.

Following that his goal total sharply declined. He is not even in the top 50 in goals scored over that decade despite retiring in 1999. Still 4th overall in points but lagging far behind in goal production.


Ovechkin on the other hand is still the dominant goal scorer well into his 30's and into his second decade. He does not have the peak dominance that Gretzky had in the 80's but he has proven to be the best goal scorer over a 15 year period and counting.

Ovechkin has 671 goals since the year 2000. Jarome Iginla finished with 536. He has played 130 more games during him than that time as well. Gretzky has the better peak by a wide margin but if Ovechkin continues the pace for another couple of seasons I think longevity trumps that.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Nov 9 2019 08:00pm

To unequivocally be called the greatest goal scorer of all time, one must possess the highest # of goals of all time.

In my opinion

This post was edited by Subzer0isGG on Nov 9 2019 09:17pm

Fair enough. I don't think anyone will ever pass Gretzky in that regard.

maybe some terminator hybrid lol.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Nov 9 2019 10:07pm