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Jun 24 2013 09:37pm
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I wonder how people would see Toews if he had been drafted by the Islanders for exemple.

Toews won two SC yes, but it was on stacked team and he was not even the best player in either Cup wins.. I don't mind Toews, I think he's a great player but the love for him around here is a little exagerated imo.


He was also by far the best player in the Olympics when all the elite players were playing with each other.


Explain that one. :)
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Jun 24 2013 09:39pm
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Lol ? Their 2nd center is Micheal Handzus :lol: Hawks are stacked and have a very good all around depht, but they sure don't have alot of " good " center.

Don't get me wrong though, Toews would be the #1 center on most teams, but to say he's one of the best player in the world.. meh.


dave bolland have been the 2C for a long time

sure, they lack a 2C but he's still arguably a top5 c in this league

e/ like luler said, also performed big time in olympics

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Jun 24 2013 09:40pm
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He was also by far the best player in the Olympics when all the elite players were playing with each other.


Explain that one. :)


Luck. It was all luck :Ph34r:

Haha just kidding, Toews is obviously a good player, but the Olympics is like 7 or 8 games long, you can't really judge players fairly from such a short sample size.
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Jun 24 2013 09:40pm
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Lol ? Their 2nd center is Micheal Handzus :lol: Hawks are stacked and have a very good all around depht, but they sure don't have alot of " good " center.

Don't get me wrong though, Toews would be the #1 center on most teams, but to say he's one of the best player in the world.. meh.


He's the best two-way forward in the game. He does nearly everything right in gives everything night in/ night out. He might not be the best dangler/ goal scorer/ passer but he can do anything more than well, his all-around game is so strong and complete..Plus he's the best captain in the league at 25 years of age. I could go on...
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Jun 24 2013 09:40pm
Toews best player on the best team
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Jun 24 2013 09:42pm
Toews is awesome
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Jun 24 2013 09:44pm
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He's the best two-way forward in the game. He does nearly everything right in gives everything night in/ night out. He might not be the best dangler/ goal scorer/ passer but he can do anything more than well, his all-around game is so strong and complete..Plus he's the best captain in the league at 25 years of age.  I could go on...


This... IMO being good defensively and complete in general is so underrated. People just love points/offense.

I laugh when people think a guy like Stamkos is better than Toews.




Crosby is the best player in the world offensively but I rather have Toews who does a lot more other things.
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Jun 24 2013 09:44pm
Anyway, I've had many debates on Toews here and I've come to the conclusion that I can't change you guys mind about it :lol:

All I'm saying is that Toews is fortunate to play on such a stacked team, if he was playing for a bad team he would be a good 1st line center and that's it. There wouldn't be any of those " he's the best leader in the game " talk.
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Jun 24 2013 09:46pm
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Anyway, I've had many debates on Toews here and I've come to the conclusion that I can't change you guys mind about it :lol:

All I'm saying is that Toews is fortunate to play on such a stacked team, if he was playing for a bad team he would be a good 1st line center and that's it. There wouldn't be any of those " he's the best leader in the game " talk.


I don't really understand this argument. Every winning team has more than 1 great player.

Obviously if he didn't have support, he wouldn't look as good, but that doesn't mean he still wouldn't be the best.



Gretzky had a ton of great players playing with him and he's considered the best of all time.
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