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Aug 17 2015 09:40am
Quote (GSG @ Aug 17 2015 07:54am)
But seriously, nobody should be taking ANY type of PED unless they've been lifting/working out for years and fully understand the risks associated with them. People have been pretty fucked up from taking bad batches or doing bad cycles, and they arent just some 'magic' drug that all of a sudden gives you the body you want. I've read a lot about different cycles, mainly because it interests me and lots of guys have cycled before and saw shitty results. I've been lifting for ~3 years now, and my personal weight loss journey started ~4 years ago. I never have and likely never will take anything because I dont think it is worth the potential risk for something that is a hobby of mine. I wouldn't recommend that you take anything Subzer0. If you really want to win, make sure your diet is tight for the next month. Cut down the calories maybe 100-200 more per day. Becoming reliant on quick fix to help you reach your goals isn't going to help you in the long run. It'll either cause you to cycle more frequently which can be dangerous or quit all together.

Just my thoughts, your life - good luck.


See the reason I'm. Thinking of trying it is well, no one's near as dedicated in this challange as much as I have. I've changed my diet and stuck to it. Unlike everyone else who still eats whatever. I hit the gym and go to fitness classes everyday. I have that pt dude working me hard. And there's people that have lost more than I have allegedly. We havn't done weigh ins. So just blows my mind.


I just want the 1200 haha

This post was edited by Subzer0isGG on Aug 17 2015 09:43am
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See the reason I'm. Thinking of trying it is well, no one's near as dedicated in this challange as much as I have. I've changed my diet and stuck to it. Unlike everyone else who still eats whatever. I hit the gym and go to fitness classes everyday. I have that pt dude working me hard. And there's people that have lost more than I have allegedly. We havn't done weigh ins. So just blows my mind.


Just don't rush it. If you're more dedicated than others then you'll win with or without additives :P Weight's a number, health keeps you alive past 80.
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Aug 17 2015 09:53am
Quote (dxlightning @ Aug 17 2015 08:24am)
Ehhhh I still say research everything. I had a bad experience with Hydroxicut back in high school where the skin on my entire chin got all fucked up. It was a "known side-effect" that wasn't on the label at the time. There are products out there that HAVEN'T been approved by the FDA or canadian equivalent, remember.
5 minutes (or 20 if you're not that good) on google to get a basic understanding of the product will do you WONDERS.


I agree, every person should be concious of what they are putting in their bodies and the potential side effects.

Also, the FDA covers even less that I thought. Basically the only thing they cover for nutritional/fitness products is that the label is factual:

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FDA regulates both finished dietary supplement products and dietary ingredients under a different set of regulations than those covering "conventional" foods and drug products (prescription and Over-the-Counter). Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), the dietary supplement or dietary ingredient manufacturer is responsible for ensuring that a dietary supplement or ingredient is safe before it is marketed. FDA is responsible for taking action against any unsafe dietary supplement product after it reaches the market. Generally, manufacturers do not need to register their products with FDA nor get FDA approval before producing or selling dietary supplements. Manufacturers must make sure that product label information is truthful and not misleading. Under the FDA Final Rule 21 CFR 111, all domestic and foreign companies that manufacture, package, label or hold dietary supplement, including those involved with testing, quality control, and dietary supplement distribution in the U.S., must comply with the Dietary Supplement Current Good Manufacturing Practices (cGMPS) for quality control. In addition, the manufacturer, packer, or distributor whose name appears on the label of a dietary supplement marketed in the United States is required to submit to FDA all serious adverse event reports associated with use of the dietary supplement in the United States.


So only if they have received a complaint would they investigate. Which is pretty insane considering the broad range of dietary supplements that are out there.

Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Aug 17 2015 08:40am)
See the reason I'm. Thinking of trying it is well, no one's near as dedicated in this challange as much as I have. I've changed my diet and stuck to it. Unlike everyone else who still eats whatever. I hit the gym and go to fitness classes everyday. I have that pt dude working me hard. And there's people that have lost more than I have allegedly. We havn't done weigh ins. So just blows my mind.


I just want the 1200 haha


Hey, it's your life I was just sharing my advice. If it means that much then have at it.

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Aug 17 2015 08:10pm
feeling great.
spin class and chest day
compared to few weeks ago for chest. today I was able to do many more reps before burning out.
and spin class today compared to the other day, I was able to go harder and longer on the bike.

guys....its working...hard work DOES pay off.
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Aug 17 2015 08:14pm
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feeling great.
spin class and chest day
compared to few weeks ago for chest. today I was able to do many more reps before burning out.
and spin class today compared to the other day, I was able to go harder and longer on the bike.

guys....its working...hard work DOES pay off.


hopefully you can keep it up when you arent just motivated by money.
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Aug 17 2015 08:24pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 17 2015 08:14pm)
hopefully you can keep it up when you arent just motivated by money.


I'm thinkin by then the 'lifestyle change' will be engrained in me. and il keep going
had to ask for a smaller size of coveralls at work today
and no one recognized me wearing them.

graet feeling man
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Aug 17 2015 08:30pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Aug 17 2015 07:24pm)
I'm thinkin by then the 'lifestyle change' will be engrained in me. and il keep going
had to ask for a smaller size of coveralls at work today
and no one recognized me wearing them.

graet feeling man



GJ! I expect a before and after pic to see this big change
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Aug 28 2015 04:21pm
Around 163-165 here, about a week ago.


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Quote (dirTyMan @ Aug 28 2015 04:21pm)
Around 163-165 here, about a week ago.

http://i.imgur.com/AXAcJl6.jpg


You be smaller than I thought. Pretty ripped though.

Why no shave the chest. Hear the girlies like it
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Aug 28 2015 04:37pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ 29 Aug 2015 01:21)
Around 163-165 here, about a week ago.

http://i.imgur.com/AXAcJl6.jpg


your trapz look very unproportional compared to rest of your sexy body
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