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Dec 22 2018 01:31pm
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Doesn't mean they hold no value whatsoever, just need extra follow-up.
Idk I think there is something to be learned from every side, and to ignore completely is foolish.


Nah, trusting bad news sources is the reason the world is in this mess. I read right of centre stuff, like Globe and Mail or the Calgary Herald, but that’s very different from bad faith ‘news’ outlets that exist to confuse and mislead, like Brietbart and Fox News, or the Rebel. There’s no good to be found in them, because they exist to lie and manipulate. We’ve learned a hell of a lot since the last American election about how social media can be manipulated by anyone with enough money, for whatever ends they want. Read everything critically, but don’t even touch the bullshit.
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Dec 22 2018 01:37pm
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Nah, trusting bad news sources is the reason the world is in this mess. I read right of centre stuff, like Globe and Mail or the Calgary Herald, but that’s very different from bad faith ‘news’ outlets that exist to confuse and mislead, like Brietbart and Fox News, or the Rebel. There’s no good to be found in them, because they exist to lie and manipulate. We’ve learned a hell of a lot since the last American election about how social media can be manipulated by anyone with enough money, for whatever ends they want. Read everything critically, but don’t even touch the bullshit.


Thinking this world is in a mess is the reason "this world is in a mess"
The world is thriving, if you choose to ignore that and call it bullshit then idk
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Dec 22 2018 01:45pm
The states are thriving aswell. But those CNN and WaPo and NYT will have us believeing otherwise.
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Dec 22 2018 01:53pm
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Thinking this world is in a mess is the reason "this world is in a mess"
The world is thriving, if you choose to ignore that and call it bullshit then idk


I guess I admire the positivity, but being realistic is good too. Global rise of nationalism and isolationism, and a compromised career conman in the Whitehouse means things aren’t particularly normal right now.
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Dec 22 2018 01:57pm
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I guess I admire the positivity, but being realistic is good too. Global rise of nationalism and isolationism, and a compromised career conman in the Whitehouse means things aren’t particularly normal right now.


See, you're spewing out just as much jargon just in the form of labels instead of statistics
There is and always will be rise and fall in humanity
When we stop learning from each, we lose
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Dec 22 2018 02:08pm
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See, you're spewing out just as much jargon just in the form of labels instead of statistics
There is and always will be rise and fall in humanity
When we stop learning from each, we lose


That’s a hallmark card. You haven’t said anything but a blanket “everyone’s wrong and everyone’s right! Don’t believe anything, facts on both sides!” Which is absolutely worthless, and exactly what is being shoved down our throats by those same bad faith actors.

Google ‘maskirovska’, it’s pretty fascinating stuff. Russian policy of confusion.

Not trying to be a dick, but no, many news sources deserve zero respect.

This post was edited by StayPositive on Dec 22 2018 02:17pm
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Idc lol you do you m8
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Dec 22 2018 02:21pm
Just going to put this out there -

FOX "News" once cited a known satire website (The Denver Guardian) as their source for a nationally run story that folks in Colorado could use their Food Stamps to buy weed.

Yes, I know - it's just one example. I'm sure it's not the only one, but when a national news source gets their facts from satire, without doing necessary research to make sure they're reporting fact, it kind of exposes their inclination to stir the shit pot over factual reporting.

Now, sorry for the interruption. Continue your dick measuring contest.

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Dec 22 2018 02:23pm
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the facts may be true but that doesn't make a wall an effective solution.

maybe we need to change the way we look at these problems because the old approach hasn't worked.

If all these drugs come from the southern border maybe we should look at why drugs are in such high demand in north america, or why economics challenges make participating in the drug trade so attractive both domestically and abroad.

I don't argue with the problems the right identifies but we all need to try some more creative solutions. Common sense can tell anyone that a wall across so a large a border with so many remote areas would not be effective.


If it happens i promise you the contractors who get rich will be his buddies.
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Dec 22 2018 02:24pm
Republicans don't actually want to build the wall, they always want that for votes
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