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Jan 11 2017 10:32pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jan 11 2017 09:50pm)
I still don't understand why they traded Oshie for Brower then just let Brower walk in the off season.

I also agree was a big mistake letting Backes walk.

This team is deff better with Oshie/backes and could easily have stayed that way.


team needed a shakeup and oshie made sense to move.

i dont mind that one and brouwer helped us to a conference final. were deeper at wing so letting an older wing walk isnt surprising.

lacking center depth and letting your captain and top 6 center walk with no backup plan is an issue though, not to mention numerous extentions that havent worked out.
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Jan 12 2017 08:14am
And I sit and wonder.. what if they had gone with Panarin and Lehtera.. or just Panarin.....

Could actually start calling him St. Louis Bread Co. instead of the Breadman
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Jan 12 2017 09:43am
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And I sit and wonder.. what if they had gone with Panarin and Lehtera.. or just Panarin.....

Could actually start calling him St. Louis Bread Co. instead of the Breadman


alot of questionable moves/non moves by armstrong and co.


thats why he has to be on the hotseat. great guy, hes done some good, but hes done some bad too, and more recently than not.
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Jan 12 2017 05:59pm
Quote (Genetics @ Jan 12 2017 12:32am)
team needed a shakeup and oshie made sense to move.

i dont mind that one and brouwer helped us to a conference final. were deeper at wing so letting an older wing walk isnt surprising.

lacking center depth and letting your captain and top 6 center walk with no backup plan is an issue though, not to mention numerous extentions that havent worked out.


They tried to sign brouwer but he wanted to leave from what I saw. Backes got WAY overpaid and I'm glad the blues didn't sign him to that contract even though it makes the team worse. Woulda helped them now but bit them in the ass later.

Tarasenko kept telling the blues to sign panarin. That was dissappointing but nobody saw him being this good.

He's done a good job resigning players to good contracts lately I think. But not everybody wants to play in st Louis and that can't be held against him. The only way he gets guys is signing them to stastny type deals and it was a good risk that I liked at the time but he never played to his potential.

Anyways. Blues enter the dreaded Cali trip. Hopefully this year they can win a couple cuz they need some wins. Lets go blues
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Jan 12 2017 06:10pm
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They tried to sign brouwer but he wanted to leave from what I saw. Backes got WAY overpaid and I'm glad the blues didn't sign him to that contract even though it makes the team worse. Woulda helped them now but bit them in the ass later.

Tarasenko kept telling the blues to sign panarin. That was dissappointing but nobody saw him being this good.

He's done a good job resigning players to good contracts lately I think. But not everybody wants to play in st Louis and that can't be held against him. The only way he gets guys is signing them to stastny type deals and it was a good risk that I liked at the time but he never played to his potential.

Anyways. Blues enter the dreaded Cali trip. Hopefully this year they can win a couple cuz they need some wins. Lets go blues


well they try to sign players to what they think theyre worth, and if thats not good enough for the player great.

and im not talking about signing players who dont want to play here, im talking about signing players to bad contracts.

backes got market value and i agree that contract wont be great later. but were kind of in a win now mode as well as future mode, and he could always be moved to win in a year or two to help him out.

i dont mind that they let backes walk. i mind that we ALREADY were shallow at center before letting him walk. so you cant let him walk without a backup plan. have you seen the west? it takes 2 good centers to run deep in the playoffs nowadays, and we have a 1B and junk afterward.

the bouwmeester contract isnt good.
the lehtera contract isnt good.
the stastny contract so far isnt good.
the steen contract so far isnt good.
the allen contract so far isnt good.
the perron contract is questionable.

and there have been a couple more contracts in the past that havent went well.

im not saying hes been terrible, he just hasnt been good. and in the business hes in, not being good gets you the boot.

This post was edited by Genetics on Jan 12 2017 06:13pm
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Jan 12 2017 06:12pm
pls blues, im staying up late to watch you guys. dont play like dogshit.
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Jan 12 2017 06:21pm
fucking LA pieces of shit
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Jan 12 2017 06:43pm
bouwmeester - 5.4 isn't too bad for their top left d. A little higher than you'd hope but he's taken a step back in performance a bit lately. I agree it's not that good though
lehtera - 4.7 I agree isn't good
stastny - 7 was the only way they could get him into st Louis. He hasn't played anywhere near what he did in colorado and I personally didn't mind the deal at the time in order to get him here. But the performance can't be arm dogs fault.
steen - 5.75 for their best 2 way guy is a great deal. He's one of their better guys offensively and best guy defensively on the front end. I like the deal.
allen - 2.35 this year is good for what he's doing. He's had a bad 1/2 season can't even judge the contract next year before he even gets there imo
perron - 3.75 is great for him. Only 2 years. Adds depth. Plays his role good. I really like this deal.

For bad contracts what about good ones?
Pietro - 6.5 long term is a fucking STEAL
Tarasenko - 7.5 for a top 5 scorer when guys like Kane get 10 or stamkos get 8. It's a really good deal and when more guys get 10 itll continue to look better
Schwartz - 5.35 is a great deal for a young player who will only get better. Solid 2 way game love the deal
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Jan 12 2017 06:57pm
Quote (ADomenico @ Jan 12 2017 07:43pm)
bouwmeester - 5.4 isn't too bad for their top left d. A little higher than you'd hope but he's taken a step back in performance a bit lately. I agree it's not that good though
lehtera - 4.7 I agree isn't good
stastny - 7 was the only way they could get him into st Louis. He hasn't played anywhere near what he did in colorado and I personally didn't mind the deal at the time in order to get him here. But the performance can't be arm dogs fault.
steen - 5.75 for their best 2 way guy is a great deal. He's one of their better guys offensively and best guy defensively on the front end. I like the deal.
allen - 2.35 this year is good for what he's doing. He's had a bad 1/2 season can't even judge the contract next year before he even gets there imo
perron - 3.75 is great for him. Only 2 years. Adds depth. Plays his role good. I really like this deal.

For bad contracts what about good ones?
Pietro - 6.5 long term is a fucking STEAL
Tarasenko - 7.5 for a top 5 scorer when guys like Kane get 10 or stamkos get 8. It's a really good deal and when more guys get 10 itll continue to look better
Schwartz - 5.35 is a great deal for a young player who will only get better. Solid 2 way game love the deal


but i dont think youre understanding what im saying.

1. at the time, i thought some of the deals were decent too. the fact that CURRENTLY they arent is on him, no one else. call it bad luck, hindsight, injuries, whatever, it doesnt matter. when you dont do a good job as a GM, you get the boot. it doesnt matter how or why.

2. i posted that hes also worked in some good contracts. he couldnt possibly whiff on everything, but getting half right does not cut it.

he has this season to figure it out, and if the blues dont make it out of the first rd of the playoffs, i could see him getting the boot. shit happens, i dont hate the guy, but its all about performance.


perrons contract wasnt needed at all. were fairly deep at wing. more cap space would mean a better chance at signing or trading for a center, what we really need.

at the time i liked allens ands steens contracts and was indifferent on bouwmeester. thankfully im not the GM though because if i was id be on the hot seat.
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Jan 12 2017 07:34pm
Quote (Genetics @ Jan 12 2017 08:57pm)
but i dont think youre understanding what im saying.

1. at the time, i thought some of the deals were decent too. the fact that CURRENTLY they arent is on him, no one else. call it bad luck, hindsight, injuries, whatever, it doesnt matter. when you dont do a good job as a GM, you get the boot. it doesnt matter how or why.

2. i posted that hes also worked in some good contracts. he couldnt possibly whiff on everything, but getting half right does not cut it.

he has this season to figure it out, and if the blues dont make it out of the first rd of the playoffs, i could see him getting the boot. shit happens, i dont hate the guy, but its all about performance.


perrons contract wasnt needed at all. were fairly deep at wing. more cap space would mean a better chance at signing or trading for a center, what we really need.

at the time i liked allens ands steens contracts and was indifferent on bouwmeester. thankfully im not the GM though because if i was id be on the hot seat.


Some of the underperformance can be put on the coach. A lot of the bad playoff performances is more on the coach than the gm imo. When the team is a top regular season team and struggles to make it out the 1st round that's coach not gm. I'd give him til the end of the next year before I'd look to get rid of him. He's built this team and they got to conference finals last year. I hope he brings in a good coach cuz I don't think yeo is any better than hitchcock. I see where you're coming from tho. Results are what's most important and it should be judged on that. People have thought hawks were dumb for the guys they've gotten rid of but the results speak for themselves so I get where you're coming from with that.
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