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Jul 26 2015 05:37pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Jul 26 2015 04:22pm)
Lovely thing about healthy eating. There's many different opinions.
And at the moment I'm gonna follow what muscle beach tells me to do at the gym.
Because I don't agree with caedus


Basically all you should be worried about is getting in your macros and eating the MOST amount of food you can while still losing about 1-1.5 lbs a week.

1g of protein per lb of LEAN bodyweight, .5g of fat per lb, and rest with carbs.
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Jul 26 2015 05:48pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jul 26 2015 06:40pm)
I'd say it's 100% lifestyle. Attributing something to a diet I think implies it's temporary. When someone says "no I can't eat that, I'm on a diet", I think this person will eventually eat this again. And you know what they usually do. Aim to live a healthier lifestyle and you can still eat what you want (in lesser proportion) but still lose wait. I'm a picky eater, I don't like "green" food. Never have, I don't know if I ever will. I like bread, meat, and dairy. That's what I like, good luck changing it. But I can still lead a healthy life. I lost 40-45 pounds in just over a year with exercise and modifications to my diet. I didn't go on a diet, I corrected anyone who said I was. I simply changed my feeding patterns. I drink almost exclusively water now, if I'm going to eat unhealthy I eat smaller portions. I take vitamins to make up for deficiencies in what I don't want to eat. And to be honest I didn't do long exercises either. I had one day, usually Saturday or Sunday where I did a 45-75 minute workout, but for the most part it was 20 minutes of squats (75-200 depending on the morning) leg lifts, curls, sit ups etc. Some days I'd go for a run, but if I didn't feel like it I didn't., Now what probably helped me is I have fairly massive muscles in my shoulders, and pretty substantially muscles elsewhere in my upper body and arms from lifting thousand of pounds of drywall supplies every day for years, and the squats and leg lifts build a lot of muscles in my legs, so I had large amount of muscle mass that helped burn calories for me.

In the first month or two after I decided to change my lifestyle, I went from 235 to 220-215 Started May 2014, two months later end of July I'm about 215.. Then I hit a wall, and I lost 5 pounds the next 4-5 months, nothing was really dropping weight fast So December 2014 I'm 210 pounds. Made a few tweaks after that. Completely cut out pop, tried to drink less Gatorade and only water, and got serious about making my workout consistent. Every Monday I "reset" and started lower. I don't remember exactly but 75 squats, 50 leg lifts, 100 curls, 25 situps, 10 pushups, 5 minutes with the punching bag. By the time I got to my long workout on Sunday, it was 150 squats, 100 leg lifts, 500 curls, 70 situps, 40 pushups, 20 minutes punching bag, and a 3-4 KM run. I have no idea if this workout was good or not, I could have easily been doing something wrong, because I made it myself with what worked for me and what I wanted to do. And it did work for me. But I didn't change my diet anymore than I said originally. Because I like what I eat, and I'm not going to change that because I wanted to get in shape. I was just smart about it.

And I'm in good to great shape defending on your definition. I think just setting a goal to lose weight is wrong. Aim to be healhly, but to be healthy and still live life like you want to live it. I want to have a nice, juicy cheeseburger with enough fries to make me bloated every week, and fuck it I'm going to do that no matter how healthy I want to be. I lost 40-45 pounds in just over a year doing this. It was gradual, I think it required me building muscles in my upper body and legs (since muscle mass is one of the biggest calorie burners you can have), but it worked. And for all the things I'm unhappy with, I'm happy with this.


Holy fucking wall of text batman
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Jul 26 2015 05:50pm
If you guys are so smart, who can tell me why I haven't gained a pound since grade 9
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Jul 26 2015 05:50pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Jul 26 2015 07:22pm)
Lovely thing about healthy eating. There's many different opinions.
And at the moment I'm gonna follow what muscle beach tells me to do at the gym.
Because I don't agree with caedus


You are absolutely going to go back to eating the way you did before you started your diet, because you're thinking of it in the wrong way. You have the wrong mindset in doing this. You need to change for the rest of your life, and starving yourself/not eating the foods you want to eat ensures that you are not making a change you can keep up for the rest of your life. It's not about willpower, the strongest person can get discouraged and it all goes down the drain. Sounds like you weren't in the greatest shape to being with too.

I don't like get fit challenges for this reason. You think you're getting in shape but you're not long term. It's a gradual process to get fit, and you need a long term plan. You're not a movie star who needs to change his body for his next job opportunity. Want to get healthy for the rest of your life, you should do something that you can keep doing for the rest of your life.

Quote (pcgamingred @ Jul 26 2015 07:50pm)
If you guys are so smart, who can tell me why I haven't gained a pound since grade 9


Because Bubba who fucks your ass every night (sorry, you're a bottom for life) makes you sweat so much you can't gain any weight.

This post was edited by Caedus on Jul 26 2015 05:51pm
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Jul 26 2015 05:53pm
Quote (pcgamingred @ Jul 26 2015 04:50pm)
If you guys are so smart, who can tell me why I haven't gained a pound since grade 9


Your energy expenditure is greater than your energy intake.
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Jul 26 2015 06:27pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jul 26 2015 05:50pm)
You are absolutely going to go back to eating the way you did before you started your diet, because you're thinking of it in the wrong way. You have the wrong mindset in doing this. You need to change for the rest of your life, and starving yourself/not eating the foods you want to eat ensures that you are not making a change you can keep up for the rest of your life. It's not about willpower, the strongest person can get discouraged and it all goes down the drain. Sounds like you weren't in the greatest shape to being with too.

I don't like get fit challenges for this reason. You think you're getting in shape but you're not long term. It's a gradual process to get fit, and you need a long term plan. You're not a movie star who needs to change his body for his next job opportunity. Want to get healthy for the rest of your life, you should do something that you can keep doing for the rest of your life.



Because Bubba who fucks your ass every night (sorry, you're a bottom for life) makes you sweat so much you can't gain any weight.


and I am doing this for the rest of my life.
its called a lifestyle change you nitwit.
and thanx for the support caedus. last time I comment kindly to anything you post.
you seem to have it all figured out. make the next biggest loser show and see how it pans out, you'd fail. and telling people to eat same shit lower quantity and that it would be 'fine' is fucking ludicrous if what they are eating is HIGH in sugars or CARBS. you still wont lose weight
you think I havnt tried 'smaller quantities' to lose weight? give your head a shake. not everyone is the exact same.
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Jul 26 2015 06:34pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Jul 26 2015 08:27pm)
and I am doing this for the rest of my life.
its called a lifestyle change you nitwit.
and thanx for the support caedus. last time I comment kindly to anything you post.
you seem to have it all figured out. make the next biggest loser show and see how it pans out, you'd fail. and telling people to eat same shit lower quantity and that it would be 'fine' is fucking ludicrous if what they are eating is HIGH in sugars or CARBS. you still wont lose weight
you think I havnt tried 'smaller quantities' to lose weight? give your head a shake. not everyone is the exact same.


I'm not discouraging what you're doing, don't mistake it from that. I'm saying I don't think what your doing is sustainable. You said before there is foods you like but you have the willpower not to eat them. Do you actually think you can keep that up for the rest of your life, that you can only eat healthy things, and that you will always maintain a strict and harsh workout schedule? I've seen this so many times, and almost have fitness expert or dietician will say diets don't work. My perspective is no where near as simplistic as "eat what you want, in small portions". It's you should still eat what you want, but not as much, as part of a greater overall strategy to change your lifestyle choices. Your diet and exercise regime sound like something a movie star does to get in shape for their next movie. It's a crash diet, and things like that are the reason people don't like the word diet.

I don't have it all figured out, that's why I'm not advocating anything specific. I just don't think a "lifestyle change" where you avoid anything unhealthy, basically starving yourself is sustainable. If you thought deep about what you're doing, you'd know you can't keep this up for the rest of your life.
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Jul 26 2015 07:17pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jul 26 2015 06:34pm)
I'm not discouraging what you're doing, don't mistake it from that. I'm saying I don't think what your doing is sustainable. You said before there is foods you like but you have the willpower not to eat them. Do you actually think you can keep that up for the rest of your life, that you can only eat healthy things, and that you will always maintain a strict and harsh workout schedule? I've seen this so many times, and almost have fitness expert or dietician will say diets don't work. My perspective is no where near as simplistic as "eat what you want, in small portions". It's you should still eat what you want, but not as much, as part of a greater overall strategy to change your lifestyle choices. Your diet and exercise regime sound like something a movie star does to get in shape for their next movie. It's a crash diet, and things like that are the reason people don't like the word diet.

I don't have it all figured out, that's why I'm not advocating anything specific. I just don't think a "lifestyle change" where you avoid anything unhealthy, basically starving yourself is sustainable. If you thought deep about what you're doing, you'd know you can't keep this up for the rest of your life.


you realize you like...contradict yourself.
this IS the same thing and it isn't a crash diet.
tell that to the 260lb of muscle that walks around camp here. he'll laugh at you. he eats the same thing.
and im not starving myself, not sure where you get this from? you miss me say I eat SIX times a day? like jesus Christ caedus. you are on pcgaming level at the moment
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Jul 26 2015 07:26pm
it doesnt matter how many times you eat. You could be eating 6 times a day but only 1800 calories which is FAR less than someone your weight should be eating even when losing weight.

Also the food you eat while losing weight is pretty irrelevant , all that truly matters is how much
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Jul 26 2015 07:54pm
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Jul 26 2015 09:17pm)
you realize you like...contradict yourself.
this IS the same thing and it isn't a crash diet.
tell that to the 260lb of muscle that walks around camp here. he'll laugh at you. he eats the same thing.
and im not starving myself, not sure where you get this from? you miss me say I eat SIX times a day? like jesus Christ caedus. you are on pcgaming level at the moment


Again, missing the point...especially what I said after words.

Well you know what, he has probably done that his whole life. You clearly haven't. And I doubt someone who is 260 lbs of pure muscle eats what you do. If you have that much muscle, your muscles are burning thousands upon thousands of calories just to sit around and do nothing. He could not have that much muscle and eat the same as you, it's impossible.

Just because you eat six times a day doesn't mean you're not starving. Eating such little of substance is the same thing.

I don't know why you think you can maintain a crash diet the rest of you life. You can went from one extreme to another. It doesn't work that way, your mind won't let it.
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