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Jul 26 2015 01:46pm
I don't get the hard diet, only eat salads type of thing. Are you really going to be able to keep that up after your challenge is over? You're always going to like the foods that aren't healthy for you, and in my mind it's a matter of time before you go back to them. Personally I think it's better to eat what you want to eat just don't do it as often. What you drink is the easiest thing I cut out. I don't miss pop nearly as much as I would miss burgers, steak, pizza etc.

Now I'm not going to claim to know my shit regarding this stuff. I don't know any of the science, I've never spoken with and never plan on speaking with a personal trainer. But after going down to less than 160 during my illness (I'm 6'3), I gained weight to 235 at one point. That was about a year ago. Now I'm 190/195 (haven't weighed myself for awhile). All I did was cut out pop, drink mostly water (the occasional Gatorade), and eat less unhealthy meals, but still eat them. Light workouts everyday though, mostly, squats, leg lifts, sit ups, push ups, punching bag etc. I sling enough supplies every weak I can't be assed to lift.

I'd like to think I'm in pretty great shape right now. Not toned like a professional athlete but it's good. Better than it ever was at least.
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Jul 26 2015 03:07pm
I'm looking to lose weight. And in doing so need to change diet to one where I burn more calarie per day than I take in. I'm eating egg whites with salsa. Beans. And fruit in morning. 930am I have 2 hard boiled eggs. Bag if celery/cauliflower/broccoli and a banana and apple. 12pm I have 2 plastic containers of spinach salad 2 hard boiled eggs bag of honeydew or orange or melon. 3pm I have,if I'm feeling tired or lazy, a sandwich or easy oatmeal for some carbs. At 545 dinner, I have plate of spinach 2 grilled chicken breast bowl of vegetables. Then workout from 630-745ish. And il eat same thing, spinach, chicken, veggie again.

Cut out any dairy milk etc. Drink water all day all the time to pee crystal clear. And il have 2 cup of orange juice in morning.

This isn't hard to do, and when I do reach my weight I want to be at its easier to maintain a body then it is to reshape a body. And like you say, il be able to branch out and indulge in rice, roast beef, potatoes, pizza, fries. Every once in awhile.

Obviously I'm going to want and like other food. But I have strong will power and a need to succeed. Time to make a life change.



Losing weight is 70% diet 30% excersie. Soo eating whatever you want and you'll see minimum results. Not that I'm an expert. Just passing along everything I've learned over past few days

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Jul 26 2015 03:42pm
Quote (Caedus @ Jul 26 2015 12:46pm)
I don't get the hard diet, only eat salads type of thing. Are you really going to be able to keep that up after your challenge is over? You're always going to like the foods that aren't healthy for you, and in my mind it's a matter of time before you go back to them. Personally I think it's better to eat what you want to eat just don't do it as often. What you drink is the easiest thing I cut out. I don't miss pop nearly as much as I would miss burgers, steak, pizza etc.

Now I'm not going to claim to know my shit regarding this stuff. I don't know any of the science, I've never spoken with and never plan on speaking with a personal trainer. But after going down to less than 160 during my illness (I'm 6'3), I gained weight to 235 at one point. That was about a year ago. Now I'm 190/195 (haven't weighed myself for awhile). All I did was cut out pop, drink mostly water (the occasional Gatorade), and eat less unhealthy meals, but still eat them. Light workouts everyday though, mostly, squats, leg lifts, sit ups, push ups, punching bag etc. I sling enough supplies every weak I can't be assed to lift.

I'd like to think I'm in pretty great shape right now. Not toned like a professional athlete but it's good. Better than it ever was at least.



You're pretty much correct I can go into more detail later as to why you're correct


@sub , I doubt that's even 2000 calories . You need to eat more otherwise you'll be in starvation mode before you start

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Jul 26 2015 04:27pm
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You're pretty much correct I can go into more detail later as to why you're correct


@sub , I doubt that's even 2000 calories . You need to eat more otherwise you'll be in starvation mode before you start


That's the idea of eating 6x a day :o always full
But always hungry.
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Jul 26 2015 04:33pm
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That's the idea of eating 6x a day :o always full
But always hungry.



That's not good. I eat mOre than you while cutting and I'm 170 lbs.also you're eating like zero carbs .
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Jul 26 2015 04:35pm
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That's not good. I eat mOre than you while cutting and I'm 170 lbs.also you're eating like zero carbs .


Meh, I said if I'm feeling groggy il eat a sandwich or oatmeal for some ?
What would you suggest I add to what i eat now for carbs.
Complex carbs
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Jul 26 2015 04:36pm
quinoa is pretty good dude

make salads out of it

and sweet potatoes



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Jul 26 2015 04:40pm
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Losing weight is 70% diet 30% excersie. Soo eating whatever you want and you'll see minimum results. Not that I'm an expert. Just passing along everything I've learned over past few days


I'd say it's 100% lifestyle. Attributing something to a diet I think implies it's temporary. When someone says "no I can't eat that, I'm on a diet", I think this person will eventually eat this again. And you know what they usually do. Aim to live a healthier lifestyle and you can still eat what you want (in lesser proportion) but still lose wait. I'm a picky eater, I don't like "green" food. Never have, I don't know if I ever will. I like bread, meat, and dairy. That's what I like, good luck changing it. But I can still lead a healthy life. I lost 40-45 pounds in just over a year with exercise and modifications to my diet. I didn't go on a diet, I corrected anyone who said I was. I simply changed my feeding patterns. I drink almost exclusively water now, if I'm going to eat unhealthy I eat smaller portions. I take vitamins to make up for deficiencies in what I don't want to eat. And to be honest I didn't do long exercises either. I had one day, usually Saturday or Sunday where I did a 45-75 minute workout, but for the most part it was 20 minutes of squats (75-200 depending on the morning) leg lifts, curls, sit ups etc. Some days I'd go for a run, but if I didn't feel like it I didn't., Now what probably helped me is I have fairly massive muscles in my shoulders, and pretty substantially muscles elsewhere in my upper body and arms from lifting thousand of pounds of drywall supplies every day for years, and the squats and leg lifts build a lot of muscles in my legs, so I had large amount of muscle mass that helped burn calories for me.

In the first month or two after I decided to change my lifestyle, I went from 235 to 220-215 Started May 2014, two months later end of July I'm about 215.. Then I hit a wall, and I lost 5 pounds the next 4-5 months, nothing was really dropping weight fast So December 2014 I'm 210 pounds. Made a few tweaks after that. Completely cut out pop, tried to drink less Gatorade and only water, and got serious about making my workout consistent. Every Monday I "reset" and started lower. I don't remember exactly but 75 squats, 50 leg lifts, 100 curls, 25 situps, 10 pushups, 5 minutes with the punching bag. By the time I got to my long workout on Sunday, it was 150 squats, 100 leg lifts, 500 curls, 70 situps, 40 pushups, 20 minutes punching bag, and a 3-4 KM run. I have no idea if this workout was good or not, I could have easily been doing something wrong, because I made it myself with what worked for me and what I wanted to do. And it did work for me. But I didn't change my diet anymore than I said originally. Because I like what I eat, and I'm not going to change that because I wanted to get in shape. I was just smart about it.

And I'm in good to great shape defending on your definition. I think just setting a goal to lose weight is wrong. Aim to be healhly, but to be healthy and still live life like you want to live it. I want to have a nice, juicy cheeseburger with enough fries to make me bloated every week, and fuck it I'm going to do that no matter how healthy I want to be. I lost 40-45 pounds in just over a year doing this. It was gradual, I think it required me building muscles in my upper body and legs (since muscle mass is one of the biggest calorie burners you can have), but it worked. And for all the things I'm unhappy with, I'm happy with this.
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Jul 26 2015 04:50pm
Majority of my carbs come from bread.

I basically agree with everything Caedus said though.

For me I have to make a goal because I already eat healthy but I want to get super lean which unfortunately just eating healthy won't allow. I count everything I eat but eat pretty much what ever I want and I enjoy it.
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Jul 26 2015 05:22pm
Lovely thing about healthy eating. There's many different opinions.
And at the moment I'm gonna follow what muscle beach tells me to do at the gym.
Because I don't agree with caedus

This post was edited by Subzer0isGG on Jul 26 2015 05:22pm
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