Quote (Subzer0isGG @ May 25 2018 09:55am)
This talking point about nra and politicians get money and don’t change laws is tiring. Want to know what kills more people in the USA per year?
33000 American civilians died from gun violence in 2017. This sounds like a lot but it really isn’t. 2/3 of those people were committing suicide and they would have even without guns. Guns are just quicker and easier. A couple hundred of the gun deaths were hunting accidents or misfires in general and only 500 was from the mass shootings everyone is so scared of. Car crashed killed 40000 in 2016 and millions more are injured. 64000 people died from substance abuse, 480,000 die from smoking every year and 699,202 people are killed before they are even born. Nearly 600000 people die from being obese.
So this is why politicians get to decide the laws and they don’t push any through based solely off emotions.
Classic "What About Ism"
Just because people are dying in other ways doesnt mean gun control shouldn't be addressed and it certainly isnt an argument against gun control. Children are dying going to school, people are dying going to concerts or clubs.... No matter how many people die in Vehicle crashes a year it doesnt change the fact that lives are being lost due to unnecessary gun violence. The rate of mass shootings in the US has been on the increase, not decrease, which is exactly why they need to implement more controls. They also have the highest rate of homicide by firearm of any developed nation. Neither of these things are good signs for their current laws and exactly why they need to be addressed.
There have been 25 mass shootings (4+ people injured/killed) in the US in 2018. In May. Just because people arent being killed doesnt make it any less violent or horrific to be apart of.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shootingQuote (KoJ @ May 25 2018 09:58am)
the nra isnt exactly the issue here, but they arnt helping also.
there is obviously a problem, what do you do to fix it? you arnt taking away all guns, that is just a fact, it wont happen, people wont let it. background checks, great awesome. ive been through plenty of them. but unless there is a history of an issue, nothing is going to come up, so thats not exactly effective. gun owners need to start being more responsible, my shit is locked up, and unless you have a cutting torch and a lot of time, youre not getting them.
i think prevention at school is much easier at a school than in the general public for sure.
this is a people issue, and their tool of choice is a gun, its easy and effective.
The NRA is preventing any type of gun control by lobbying against any bill that is gun control related. I think the first step is improved training and restrictions on being able to own a firearm. A law like that would never pass however.
I completely agree that people are also an issue and mental health needs to be addressed. But after every mass shooting that's what gets said, nothing gets done, onto the next one.
This post was edited by GSG on May 25 2018 11:18am