Quote (Proint @ Nov 29 2015 09:11pm)
Some people were getting mad at jbell and pens for doing stuff without a vote. Then some people wanted a vote and were saying it used to be a democracy. If it's only the trusteds and meds voting it's more of a republic. If the hockey forum has the same method of promoting actives to trusted and med as the nfl/nba/MLB forums, then meds and trusteds are voted on by themselves. So that's not really a republic either.
That's not important though.
Bb Mello says that even bringing up prone for removal is retarded. What is actually retarded is not having a welcher paid back status. Why did it take so long to get it this far? People who welched and paid back are seen as the same as welchers on the hockey list. Whether they payed back the 50 fg they welched or welched 2k and never showed their face here again, they show up the same on the list. That absolutely has to change.
People who welch in other forums are sometimes placed on the hockey welcher list. Which of course makes sense. Have to protect our forum from that type of risk. But a record should be kept of every single welch and welch payed back. If that's already being done then good.
Welcher for life despite paying back simply makes no sense. It's a stone age policy. Welcher paid back often carries the same stigma but it's far less of a bad label to a lot of people. Myself included. I will not bet with welchers but I will bet with wpb. In hockey there are no wpbs so people who did pay back are missing out on potential bets and games.
One mistake/bad decision and you're forever a welcher. If the rules are changed to allow for a wpb status then that is slightly better. People learn from their mistakes. People change. I'm not sure I'd advocate for the possibility to get removed off the welcher list and work your way to active, but simply saying it can never happen is the wrong approach. When did welching pixels become unforgivable?
Logs of every single addition to the list have to kept. We need to be able to back up our list with facts and evidence.
i agree whole heatedly with this, there should be wpb, and you should be able to, over time have that removed, im not saying make it easy. but if a guy is a consistent presence for a long time....
heres my list
Remove (thanks for partial list lul)
- Blacjac91
- C4nes
- CehNehDeh
- dej
- dirTyman
- Dream_5241
- Epidermis
- HyrenX
- nimnim2500
- Olfongodar
- Shmazoo
- SicKid
- Swii
- tim226
- rattle-trap
- viva_la_nemo
Add
Tx6
Orchard (as always but i understand)
Dr0k
Carmel hockey (put him back on)