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Feb 27 2014 10:12am
i hate kesler
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Feb 27 2014 11:32am
Kuznetsov Is playing 3 more games for Traktor then will be moving in with OV. Might be able to see his debut if he has a roster spot right away. His actual signing date for his contract depends on how long traktor is in playoffs though.

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Feb 27 2014 12:15pm
Saw a good comment on tsn-

If a player requests a trade and has a NTC that they worked in to their contract, the NTC should be voided.

I thought it was a fair proposal.
You see this a lot now. Players get their NTC but then want out but its completely at their discretion.
It's not exactly fair to say "im not going to play for the contract I signed here so you will move me to a team I want to go to."

Its kind of ok right now because most moves like this are done in good faith. But thats only most...
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Feb 27 2014 12:34pm
Quote (Stealth @ Feb 27 2014 10:15am)
Saw a good comment on tsn-

If a player requests a trade and has a NTC that they worked in to their contract, the NTC should be voided.

I thought it was a fair proposal.
You see this a lot now. Players get their NTC but then want out but its completely at their discretion. 
It's not exactly fair to say "im not going to play for the contract I signed here so you will move me to a team I want to go to."

Its kind of ok right now because most moves like this are done in good faith. But thats only most...


i get it, but i like it when they have the option to say no to a list of X amount of teams
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Feb 27 2014 12:49pm
Quote (KoJ @ Feb 27 2014 02:34pm)
i get it, but i like it when they have the option to say no to a list of X amount of teams


That can all be worked in during negotiations.

The issue here is simply that the player says I want a NTC and then he can say ok now I want a trade but I only to team X. So essentially the player gets to select the exact team he wants with this kind of play. This while the GM thought he had an asset locked in for 8 years, now he must trade the player and trade him to a team that He wants to go to. Thats not exactly fair.
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Feb 27 2014 12:53pm
Quote (Stealth @ Feb 27 2014 10:49am)
That can all be worked in during negotiations. 

The issue here is simply that the player says I want a NTC and then he can say ok now I want a trade but I only to team X. So essentially the player gets to select the exact team he wants with this kind of play. This while the GM thought he had an asset locked in for 8 years, now he must trade the player and trade him to a team that He wants to go to. Thats not exactly fair.


right

i get what youre saying, i dont know why so many teams/gms/owners give ntc's out
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Feb 27 2014 01:27pm
Quote (Stealth @ Feb 27 2014 01:49pm)
That can all be worked in during negotiations.

The issue here is simply that the player says I want a NTC and then he can say ok now I want a trade but I only to team X. So essentially the player gets to select the exact team he wants with this kind of play. This while the GM thought he had an asset locked in for 8 years, now he must trade the player and trade him to a team that He wants to go to. Thats not exactly fair.


Or, a NTC has to be respected by both parties for the term of the contract. Players might think twice now, it's only making it fair.
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Feb 27 2014 01:41pm
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Or, a NTC has to be respected by both parties for the term of the contract. Players might think twice now, it's only making it fair.


oh snap, game changer
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Feb 27 2014 02:46pm
Quote (Stealth @ Feb 27 2014 11:49am)
That can all be worked in during negotiations. 

The issue here is simply that the player says I want a NTC and then he can say ok now I want a trade but I only to team X. So essentially the player gets to select the exact team he wants with this kind of play. This while the GM thought he had an asset locked in for 8 years, now he must trade the player and trade him to a team that He wants to go to. Thats not exactly fair.


Just because a player asks for a trade doesnt mean you need to trade them ....
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Feb 27 2014 02:49pm
Quote (dirTyMan @ Feb 27 2014 12:46pm)
Just because a player asks for a trade doesnt mean you need to trade them ....


Well maybe not right away but eventually you have to. If the guy isn't happy there, he likely isn't going to help your team that much in the long-term.

Quote (KoJ @ Feb 27 2014 10:53am)
i dont know why so many teams/gms/owners give ntc's out


They have to do it to sign players 'cause another team is willing to give a little more money + the NTC to steal the player away lol.
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