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Mar 22 2018 02:25pm
Quote (Weber @ Mar 22 2018 04:23pm)
Toxic psychoses from thc are common and real


everything i have seen indicates that it's in those who are genetically predisposed. but i'm not denying there are negatives consequences for young smokers, that is certainly true.

all I'm saying is the evidence being provided in this debate is largely anecdotal, i know this docotor who says etc
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Mar 22 2018 02:34pm
Quote (Weber @ Mar 22 2018 04:23pm)
Toxic psychoses from thc are common and real


is it though? i literally watched a docu about this shit and spent 2 hours of my life for them to say at the end they have no verified proof its all in theory and its very possible the people were "crazy" even before they smoked and weed didnt cause it
i mean shit there is a bazillion smokers out there your telling me you cant prove if weed make people crazy? its likely because it doesnt lol

This post was edited by dragoneth on Mar 22 2018 02:35pm
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Mar 22 2018 02:41pm
Should have said trigerred by. You have to have predispositions but i believe thats the case for most of substance induced psychoses
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Mar 22 2018 02:47pm
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is it though? i literally watched a docu about this shit and spent 2 hours of my life for them to say at the end they have no verified proof its all in theory and its very possible the people were "crazy" even before they smoked and weed didnt cause it
i mean shit there is a bazillion smokers out there your telling me you cant prove if weed make people crazy? its likely because it doesnt lol


Pretty sure there were some studies in Netherlands that pretty conclusively said people who are genetically predisposed to certain mental illnesses can be triggered by pot

Quote (Weber @ Mar 22 2018 04:41pm)
Should have said trigerred by. You have to have predispositions but i believe thats the case for most of substance induced psychoses

basically this.


The real point though is that its not like keeping it illegal will mean they don't have access. I was using MJ at like 15-16 and ofc it was illegal, absolutely no problem with access. i dont see how access even could increase, maybe that's my slant being a city kid though.
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Mar 22 2018 02:48pm
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is it though? i literally watched a docu about this shit and spent 2 hours of my life for them to say at the end they have no verified proof its all in theory and its very possible the people were "crazy" even before they smoked and weed didnt cause it
i mean shit there is a bazillion smokers out there your telling me you cant prove if weed make people crazy? its likely because it doesnt lol


I know someone who developed schizophrenia as a teen by smoking weed

maybe it was gonna come sooner or later, but doc said it triggered it
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Quote (Odell @ Mar 22 2018 10:24pm)
all pills good obv. doctor not dumb. prescribed benzo allways good. ^_^


but this is not benzo base :cry:
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I know someone who developed schizophrenia as a teen by smoking weed

maybe it was gonna come sooner or later, but doc said it triggered it


right, but they managed that when it was illegal, would it being legal now increase smoking rates in youth? i'm not convinced, i for one think any young people inclined to smoke already had access at their fingertips
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Quote (h4bs @ Mar 22 2018 04:48pm)
I know someone who developed schizophrenia as a teen by smoking weed

maybe it was gonna come sooner or later, but doc said it triggered it


yeah the documentary i watched was about that there is a chance weed triggers stuff like that early but only if the person already has it and they couldnt even prove it its just a theory
unless they have proven it since but i havnt seen anything about it and i feel like that would be everywhere if it got proven

Quote (Nearin @ Mar 22 2018 04:51pm)
right, but they managed that when it was illegal, would it being legal now increase smoking rates in youth? i'm not convinced, i for one think any young people inclined to smoke already had access at their fingertips


legalizing it either does 2 things
1. makes your local dealers go cheaper and nothing changes except the price of your bud
2. local dealers quit because there is no money in it and its harder for kids to get since you need to buy from dispensaries
its all about how they price it imo

This post was edited by dragoneth on Mar 22 2018 02:55pm
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Quote (Nearin @ Mar 22 2018 03:51pm)
right, but they managed that when it was illegal, would it being legal now increase smoking rates in youth? i'm not convinced, i for one think any young people inclined to smoke already had access at their fingertips


yup I agree, I don't think making it legal will change much

but should you make something legal that can harm children/teens, if there is all of a sudden an increase in cases of teens developing mental illness because of weed it will fall on the govt hands because it is now a legal product, as to now people will blame police/parents and bad drug dealers

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Quote (Nearin @ 22 Mar 2018 15:51)
right, but they managed that when it was illegal, would it being legal now increase smoking rates in youth? i'm not convinced, i for one think any young people inclined to smoke already had access at their fingertips



Rural areas and towns will see increase I would imagine, but I don't imagine it would develop into a crisis or anything close
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