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Aug 4 2021 06:09am
Quote (Twax @ Aug 4 2021 07:35am)
Seattle could have had Tarasenko for free no?

e/: Well I guess not technically free since they could not have drafted idk who they picked instead of him but whatever.


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still stl exposed tarasenko for free in the draft and has turned down offers from multiple teams willing to take the full cap hit and multiple wanting retained salary
unless its teams trying to get a cap dump deal it doesnt really make sense how stl isnt making a trade but is exposing him for free


such a weird situation
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Aug 6 2021 12:11pm
Looking like 8x9.25 for Nurse.
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Aug 6 2021 12:18pm
The Thomas Chabot 8x8 looks better and better every day
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Aug 6 2021 12:23pm
Quote (Meatstick @ 6 Aug 2021 11:18)
The Thomas Chabot 8x8 looks better and better every day


:rofl:

I wish they went 9.5m
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Aug 6 2021 01:16pm
I think it's good to see dmen getting paydays. A legit #1 is going to log more ice time than any other skater, including their best forward.

Like... Ovie will get paid 9.5M to basically sit in the slot and score 30-40 goals with the understanding he might be a net liability. Guys like Marner have 8-digit salaries to just score. Yet a #1 dman is expected to not just be the main backend threat but to do everything defensively and take the most shifts... only fair that the gap is closing between top forwards and dmen.
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Aug 6 2021 01:19pm
Quote (Hizkuntza @ Aug 6 2021 01:16pm)
I think it's good to see dmen getting paydays. A legit #1 is going to log more ice time than any other skater, including their best forward.

Like... Ovie will get paid 9.5M to basically sit in the slot and score 30-40 goals with the understanding he might be a net liability. Guys like Marner have 8-digit salaries to just score. Yet a #1 dman is expected to not just be the main backend threat but to do everything defensively and take the most shifts... only fair that the gap is closing between top forwards and dmen.


Exactly. Nurse making 9.25$ aav now
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Aug 6 2021 01:27pm
Quote (Hizkuntza @ Aug 6 2021 12:16pm)
I think it's good to see dmen getting paydays. A legit #1 is going to log more ice time than any other skater, including their best forward.

Like... Ovie will get paid 9.5M to basically sit in the slot and score 30-40 goals with the understanding he might be a net liability. Guys like Marner have 8-digit salaries to just score. Yet a #1 dman is expected to not just be the main backend threat but to do everything defensively and take the most shifts... only fair that the gap is closing between top forwards and dmen.


All of the advanced analytics has played a large role in that.

Not many guys can play 30 minutes (or close to it) a night and be given the toughest matchups every game.

All of this while also being relied upon on special teams.

The amount of versatility and importance of a top pair defenseman provides is certainly worthy of a high salary.

Top offensive players are probably ~ 20 minutes a night and many of them don't even kill penalties or play shutdown roles.

Have to keep in mind though that player salaries are also tied to marketability. A flashy scorer is going to sell merchandise and put people in the stands so a premium will always be paid for that.

This post was edited by Killingyouall on Aug 6 2021 01:29pm
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Quote (Hizkuntza @ 6 Aug 2021 15:16)
I think it's good to see dmen getting paydays. A legit #1 is going to log more ice time than any other skater, including their best forward.

Like... Ovie will get paid 9.5M to basically sit in the slot and score 30-40 goals with the understanding he might be a net liability. Guys like Marner have 8-digit salaries to just score. Yet a #1 dman is expected to not just be the main backend threat but to do everything defensively and take the most shifts... only fair that the gap is closing between top forwards and dmen.


Marner gets paid to what?
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Aug 6 2021 03:38pm
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Marner gets paid to what?


Put up assists and choke in the playoffs
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Aug 6 2021 04:09pm
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Marner gets paid to what?


provide entertainment to all hockey fans, aside from leaf fans.

are we not entertained when he gets shutdown in playoffs, and needlessly flip the puck over glass to throw the game???
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